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Being a Zionist requires a certain level of Cognitive dissonance because ultimately u must reject the reality of what happened to historic Palestine

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Sometimes I wonder if I even need to waste time discussing things with these people
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I would suspect that this might be a trait of a highly traumatised population
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@Ozymandiaz
Traumatized of what?

Traumatized Because they own the lobbies in the USA and own Hollywood and the big cooperations ?
Traumatized because theyr number 1 receiver of American taxpayers every year?
Traumatized because theyr a nuclear superpower who supported the South African apartheid and the current Congo genocide and enticed USA to invade Iraq and endorsed the illegal invasion of Iraq which ended up massacring the Iraqis over a lie?
Do you even know when hazballah was formed ? After Israel invaded Lebanon and did massacres there on a daily basis and reduced Lebanon to rubbles in just one year.
Traumatized because they stole a land and are living the best life in it (much better benefits than the average American citizen) ?


Welcome to Israellywood
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Apparently they caught a militant who tried to ambush them
Blindfolded him and hand cuffed him
Two seconds later he is not blindfolded or hand cuffed and putting his clothes back on in the back because the play has ended.



Judaism is not Zionism
Israel is not Judaism

There hundreds of Jewish organizations that are anti Zionism
There are holocaust Survivors
And Warsaw ghetto survivors who are whole heartedly anti Zionism

There is no excuse.
@Moon3624 there is no excuse but the root of this problem is people’s inability to see our shared humanity. Dont be the same
specman · 51-55, M
@Moon3624 Antisemitism exposed
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@specman I am anti semetic
Because I am anti colonialism apartheid and land theft?
Then Germans shouldn’t be anti Nazism because being anti Nazism is anti German.

And last time I checked im semetic
Or is being a Semite reserved for Jews?
specman · 51-55, M
@Moon3624 in denial. You have been antisemitic.
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@specman i state facts
What you do is throw me tantrums
specman · 51-55, M
@Moon3624 nope! You haven’t even condemned Hamas for the terrorist attack on October 7.
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Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@Ozymandiaz
What do you mean?
Why am I wrong for calling Israel a colonial apartheid regime when it literally is?
Why am I wrong for saying Palestinians have the right to get their land and dignity back? Israel
Shattered their dreams ,their homes ,their lands , their memories
For years and years until today
So
Fuck it

I don’t care what is your racial or religious background anyone who doesn’t admit facts it’s their issue
Has nothing to do with fucking anti semetiem unless anti Zionism and anti Israel Jews are also anti semetic.
@Moon3624 Just because a person is privileged doesn’t mean they are immune to trauma. Sadly the trauma part perpetuates.

I understand the perspective that you are coming from. I have been to Gaza and the West Bank. I have seen the conditions. I understand exactly what is happening.
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@Ozymandiaz where are you from ?
@Moon3624 Ireland
specman · 51-55, M
@Moon3624 you still don’t hold Hamas accountable. It is like blaming the victim of a crime for the crime committed to the victim because in the past. Instead of condemning the act and holding the criminal accountable you make excuses for why the criminal would do something like that.
Something is wrong with you!
@specman Criminal like ethnic cleansing?
specman · 51-55, M
@Ozymandiaz you too?
@specman Ethnic cleansing is happening. You can choose not to see it if it makes you uncomfortable. it is what it is.
specman · 51-55, M
@Ozymandiaz no. A war is taking place and Israel is winning so terror supporters are crying ethnic cleansing, genocide anything to get the international community against Israel and guess what you’re falling for it or you are spreading lies and disinformation for the terrorists.
@specman I have been to the place. I have seen it with my own eyes. How many times have you been?
specman · 51-55, M
@Ozymandiaz I use to live in Israel. I have a dual citizenship
@specman Ah well that makes sense. What part?
specman · 51-55, M
@Ozymandiaz You are just trying to see if I'm lying, but you still wouldn't know if I'm lying! We have this thing we call the " internet ". It will tell you everything! You will just have to trust me like I will have to trust you've been to Gaza.
@specman I have lived in Israel as well. You never know, maybe even at the same time.

So genuine question. What are your thoughts on the settlements?
specman · 51-55, M
@Ozymandiaz Look I am going to level with you (mainly cause I don't lie ) I only said that I lived there because I didn't believe you when you claimed to have visited there. I still do not know for a fact, but I still believe you haven't been there or lived there. I could have did some searching on the internet and gave comments. I couldn.t bring myself to do that. Like I said I don't lie and it made me feel like I was betraying myself and beliefs. I would like to apologize to you. You can be lying or telling the truth that's really your choice.
@specman Fair enough and I appreciate the honesty. My ex-wife is an Israeli-Arab. I have been there plenty of times. I have even lived there.
specman · 51-55, M
@Ozymandiaz I've never been there. I hope to see the Promise Land before my time ends though. Another place that currently has bad relations with the US I always wanted to go and see is Russia. I want to visit the Kremlin.