sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
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FreddieUK · 70-79, M
I like Jonathan Freedland's work. He has a good grasp of history and has a great long running series on BBC Radio 4 called The Long View in which he compares current events with historical events. A very sharp mind and this analysis is on target.
He's right to be very worried about statements like this which are persuading people that Trump and his acolytes truly are trying to take over everything in the state forever. I have hope that that won't happen, but it won't not happen without a struggle.
“The Democrat party is not a political party; it is a domestic extremist organisation.”
He's right to be very worried about statements like this which are persuading people that Trump and his acolytes truly are trying to take over everything in the state forever. I have hope that that won't happen, but it won't not happen without a struggle.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@FreddieUK Project 2025 has a clear template in black and white right there on the page and it is being followed without fanfare. Taking your struggle to the legislature wont work. Taking your struggle to the courts will not work. Taking your struggle to the media wont work..And LA and Washington are warnings of what will happen if you take your struggle to the streets. Trumps latest move against the Fed will weaken the economy enough to make people afraid of losing what little they have left..And if they protest they will be called criminals and terrorists. Its pretty much over..😷
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@1490wayb
I can, and have, sneered at the world of journalism because of its excesses and exaggerations. The cheap tabloid type of journalism I have a little time for. But well researched, thoughtful journalism is indeed under threat because people are not interested anymore in research, facts or thought. This is not thrown out as some quick ill consider piece. It is journalism at its best but may not suit your point of view.
the near extinct world of journalism
I can, and have, sneered at the world of journalism because of its excesses and exaggerations. The cheap tabloid type of journalism I have a little time for. But well researched, thoughtful journalism is indeed under threat because people are not interested anymore in research, facts or thought. This is not thrown out as some quick ill consider piece. It is journalism at its best but may not suit your point of view.
ThePatientAnarchist · 61-69
This is a great article.
I think some of the issue of how we talk about it is that us leftists and liberals have been denouncing Trump as a fascist for years, even before he was elected the first time around. This weakened the force of language available to us. In retrospect, the way we talked then seems hysterical -- though prescient-- compared to what is going on now. And what is yet to come???
I think some of the issue of how we talk about it is that us leftists and liberals have been denouncing Trump as a fascist for years, even before he was elected the first time around. This weakened the force of language available to us. In retrospect, the way we talked then seems hysterical -- though prescient-- compared to what is going on now. And what is yet to come???
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@ThePatientAnarchist
I think too many on the left kept talking nonense about George W. Bush, stemming from the 2000 Florida re-count, likening him to Hitler.
Some did the same thing to McCain, also calling him a warmonger.
So, when Trump came along it was like the boy who cried wolf too often - and few believed those of us who tried to warn everyone about him.
As for me, I actually liked Bush and I proudly voted for McCain.
I think some of the issue of how we talk about it is that us leftists and liberals have been denouncing Trump as a fascist for years, even before he was elected the first time around. This weakened the force of language available to us.
I think too many on the left kept talking nonense about George W. Bush, stemming from the 2000 Florida re-count, likening him to Hitler.
Some did the same thing to McCain, also calling him a warmonger.
So, when Trump came along it was like the boy who cried wolf too often - and few believed those of us who tried to warn everyone about him.
As for me, I actually liked Bush and I proudly voted for McCain.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@beckyromero I agree. Talking about the unjustices of the past only makes sense when justice rules, which I think we can all agree it doesnt, particularly in America now. How "we" are going to win and hold power next time is all that matters.😷
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
I agree with all of this. However, I am more pragmatic about it than most. America democracy has been evaporating slowly for nearly 50 years now. And the international debt position has been building for almost as long. Truth is, while it may matter to Americans how their nation is run and who runs it, I makes very little difference in the long run to the rest of the world. America is in debt to the rest of the world by over $100,000 for every man woman and child US citizen. And we probably stand a better chance of seeing some of that back under a Despot or under foreign management. Because Americans sure as hell arent going to vote to pay up..😷
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
I think many of us can see that its too late for America now. At least among the non Americans. But which way the various "close allies" of America jump from here will have a long term financial and social effect on those nations. Canada is clearly leading the charge to detach economically and in defence spending. And those nations with deep connections to the $US will have to do some hard thinking for their future..Here is a tight summary of where America is at..There course is pretty much set.. The question is, who will follow them down that rabbit hole.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-01/trump-federal-reserve-financial-markets-authoritarian/105713506
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-01/trump-federal-reserve-financial-markets-authoritarian/105713506
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@whowasthatmaskedman Yes, a good summary of what america is heading into. As mentioned, the rest of the world can see it clearly, but americans appear to be oblivious to their autocratic future
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
Sure. Founded using slaves and war against the original population, continued with wars of expansion using proletariat labor with no means of sustenance... Filled with displaced population from the countries in Europe.... No coercion there! That's freedom for you?
JSul3 · 70-79
@Roundandroundwego Manifest Destiny!
Actions given the Seal of Approval by the Almighty!
Actions given the Seal of Approval by the Almighty!
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@JSul3 and my third grade teacher in 1970.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
The former Obama adviser David Axelrod is not alone when he says, “We have gone from zero to Hungary faster than I ever imagined.”
Axelrod is either dishonest or terribly naive.
Or perhaps he just wanted to bank all the cash he got from CNN to trash Joe Biden and Kamala Harris for years on end.
1490wayb · 56-60, M
YAWN...Just another opinion from the near extinct world of journalism struggling to earn a paycheck