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Shooting At Annunciation Catholic School In Minneapolis

Two kids, 8 and 10 are killed. Shooter killed and 17 inured.

Why?

Some of us are confused, because after careful consideration, I'm certain guns kill kids. And adults.
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@specman says
So does poison,rocks, car wrecks a lot of things can kill people
Cars used to be the biggest killer of children. We have car registration, driver's licensing, and all kinds of mandatory safety requirements on cars. And these measures have greatly reduced car deaths.

Wouldn't it be smart to license and register all firearms just like automobiles?? Firearms have been the leading cause of death for US children and teens since 2020, representing 19% of all deaths for children 18 years and younger in 2021.


America's gun homicides in perspective 2020

homicide rate vs OECD


per capita gun deaths by state red vs blue
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues Please stop trying to talk sense to gun owners. They cant sleep without their binky..😷
specman · 51-55, MVIP
@ElwoodBlues like I said in other comments people kill people they will use something else.
Northwest · M
@specman
like I said in other comments people kill people they will use something else.

If people don't have access to guns, that would reduce the kind of massacre we're seeing significantly. Conservative are slashing their wrists ever every single innocent lost life, but when it comes to the kind of carnage we're used to, it's always about thoughts and prayers. FFS, they were in the middle of praying, when they were gunned down.
@specman says
like I said in other comments people kill people they will use something else.

Like I said in other comments, the data shows that claim to be FALSE. Notice how much lower the homicide rate is in every other developed country?? Other than easy access to guns, there's no explanation of why Americans are so uniquely homicidal.

And look at the different states. Other than easy access to guns, there's no explanation of why New Englanders are so much less homicidal than southerners.

specman · 51-55, MVIP
@Northwest see my other comment to you
specman · 51-55, MVIP
@ElwoodBlues the government would have complete control over the people and so will the criminal
@specman So you're saying it's a deliberate policy to sacrifice school children to shooters in order for you to hang onto a security blanket of a cache of guns?

You are deliberately sacrificing the lives of over two thousand American children per year to prevent universal gun registration and licensing??
specman · 51-55, MVIP
@ElwoodBlues licensing and registration wouldn’t probably work because like I said criminals will always get what they need
@specman Your argument now is "why have laws regulating guns if criminals will break them?"

Let's just expand the scope of that argument a bit: why have laws at all if criminals will break them?

Actually, licensing and registering every gun and putting them all in electronic databases will make it harder for guns to move into criminal hands. If everyone is responsible for every gun they purchase, it's much riskier to sell them on the black market. And if someone has a habit of buying a few cheap guns every month, they can be found in the database.

As it is, such a database is literally illegal. We can't find out about people transacting hundreds of weapons until they have killed with them. SAD!

Firearms Owners' Protection Act (FOPA), 1986

Under 18 U.S.C. §926, the Attorney General is authorized to prescribe the rules and regulations necessary to carry out the GCA. Section 6 of FOPA amended Section 926 to prohibit a registry of firearms, firearms owners, or firearms transactions. The pertinent language of Section 926 reads:

No such rule or regulation prescribed after the date of the enactment of the Firearms Owners' Protection Act may require that records required to be maintained under this chapter or any portion of the contents of such records, be recorded at or transferred to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any State or any political subdivision thereof, nor that any system of registration of firearms, firearms owners, or firearms transactions or dispositions be established.
specman · 51-55, MVIP
@ElwoodBlues you have to register your gun at every place I have bought a firearm. I don’t own an unregistered gun. I suppose if you buy a gun from someone it would still be registered under who ever first bought the gun. They also remove serial numbers. I ain’t one to talk about illegal guns and things.
@specman You should put it in quotes: "register."

A name and a serial number go on a slip of paper, which is accumulated with millions of other slips of paper. And if the cops recover a gun from a crime scene, they send a request to a national office, and dozens of people start fingering thru slips of paper, looking for a match.

It's designed to be terribly inefficient. its designed to make it easier to hide gun crimes. Why? Because that's what the NRA wanted: more gun sales, no matter how they're ultimately used.

We register every car and license every driver, and we put all that data in electronically searchable databases for quick law-enforcement access.

Why not do the same for guns??
specman · 51-55, MVIP
@ElwoodBlues yes you’re right, but I still don’t think it will stop the criminals
@specman
don’t think it will stop the criminals
Over time it will reduce the number of guns going to criminals and increase the cost. It's a 1 hour bus ride from Chicago to Gary Indiana. Indiana doesn't require registration or a permit for a handgun.

So it's pretty simple for a kid from a gang in Chicago to go buy a gun in Gary. Better registration and licensing laws would raise the difficulty factor.