The question is, has the USA taken over the Vatican?

Or is the Vatican taking over the USA?

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swirlie · 31-35

There were a total of 5 American Cardinals as contenders, all of whom were considered 'long shots' at best, yet here's the Catholic Church now with an American Pope which was a decision in my view that robbed Catholicism of it's legitimacy in the real world.

Elessar · 31-35, M

@swirlie I don't think so, his nationality isn't anywhere as important as his ideology. Also the church has been playing the geopolitical game for over two millennia now, I think this is a very calculated move.

swirlie · 31-35

@Elessar
A very calculated move? No, I don't think so at all. That's a stretch.

whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M

@Elessar Maybe a miscalculated move. The vatican joining the US in decline...Of course I speak as an atheist..😷

Elessar · 31-35, M

@swirlie The guy hasn't lived in NA for decades, openly disapproved of both the president and the VP; being an U.S. citizen he can have a saying on U.S. politics while also being the head of the church. Also evangelicals have embedded themselves to Trumpism too much, so you can expect a lot of Christians will move away from them, and an American non-Trumpian alternativ will look appealing.

If Catholics won't expand their share in the US in the next 10 years you're free to put pineapples on my pizza

swirlie · 31-35

@Elessar
I love pineapple pizza!

Elessar · 31-35, M

@whowasthatmaskedman It isn't joining it, that's the point. Had it been the case they'd have picked an ultraconservative cardinal also from the US. This is the exact opposite

trollslayer · 46-50, M

@swirlie imagine if they elected a black or asian pope!

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swirlie · 31-35

@trollslayer
The 49th Pope was Black but was the only non-Caucasian Cardinal to become Pope.