Trump or Musk can't say so but I will.

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@HumanEarth I'm not a big electric car fan but I see how practical they would be within close to medium proximity hops in or near a downtown area.

Tesla was the first of the modern electric car makers. As such it has figured out more about electric cars. It lots more, has the experience and is several steps ahead of ways to improve the quality of their product.

The other companies are following and copying them. When someone can make that claim of being first they set the standard. Anything less than a Tesla is the knock off product. Savvy buyers aren't fooled by ads or rumors spread to claim otherwise.

Sukitupbuttercup. That's what happens when union suits accept a key to the executive crapper. Nobody likes a short coater.

At least the first EV didn't have computers and they worked

Electrobat! Is that not a great name? It belongs to the first commercially viable EV effort. Philadelphians Pedro Salom and Henry G. Morris adapted technology from battery-electric street cars and boats and got a patent in 1894

@HumanEarth My gramps was born in 1890 and raised 7 kids with his wife in the city.

You're talking about cars that had a 2 mile maximum range and used lead batteries, didn't have an enclosed passenger compartment, was useless in rain or snow, and had a top speed of 10mph.

Gramps kids, my fathers brothers and sisters told me about how the boys had dismantled lots of cars to cash in the metal scrap to help feed the family during the depression/ prohibition years.

I lived in the downtown areas in my young adult life and a Tesla would have been an exellent car there. No fuel used in those long traffic waits at every block traffic lights. Maximum 7 mile radius of common routes. No exhaust belched into the car behind or from in front of me. Closed parking structures not making my clean suit smell like a locomotive cab.

Gas cars are better for travel in sprawling exburbs or between cities and towns for sure. The time for Teslas is definitely here now though. Especially in the largest cities. You know its true if you ever lived within one for any amount of time.

@HumanEarth You might be right. There's no actual congruent or complimentary solid state or switching circuit that matches the bandwidth much less scalar capabilities of a heated cathode vacuum mutiple grid glass envelope.

Although I'm equally sure that very few academically recognized scientific insiders could ever begin to realize the missed opportunities resulting from the apparent complete abandonment of a vacuum spaced non focused active electron beam manipulation device.

Thanks for reminding me.

@HumanEarth There's no need for vacuum tubes in cars other than the radio. They're inefficient replacements for solid state ignition systems whose original points and distributor systems would survive a high altitude EMF attack.

@Gibbon I know, but at the time of this post. I just wanted to talk nonsense and make stuff up as I typed 😁😁😁

@Gibbon The college educated are uninformed. High output extreme efficiency tubes made in ceramic with aluminum heat sinks embedded into the envelope are quite useful for encoders, frequency drives, shf output amplification.

They're all talk. They don't know a darn thing about the bleeding edge of tech.

@SteelHands But I do love my vacuum tubes

@SteelHands I learned vacuum tubes while in tech school. They were still being taught along with transistors and binary logic circuits. The applications you mentioned have no application in an automobile but plenty of military uses which could use the non vulnerable EMF characteristics.
@HumanEarth Being analog old school I'm of the opinion that vacuum tube based audio reproduction is the most natural sounding.