DURING THE RARE MOMENTS OF LUCIDITY BIDEN IS A BIG FAT LIAR

New structures and totally different types of humans are required. Some of the current salaries are outrageously high and some (less) are surprisingly low. Tenure and favoritism and nepotism need elimination. @redredred

@redredred Deep state is code for civil servants doing their jobs instead of serving as Trump’s lackeys.

In your dreams @LeopoldBloom

@jackjjackson It's the truth. Nobody talked about the deep state until your orange lord and savior showed up and realized that the president isn't a dictator.

The public has known about government corruption for decades. @LeopoldBloom

@jackjjackson Correct, but only a conspiratorial fool would think government is 100% corrupt all the time, or only corrupt when Democrats are in office. Trump was probably the most corrupt president since Warren Harding and the Teapot Dome scandal. I'd put Trump ahead of Nixon on the corruption scale. Nixon was a crook, but at least he didn't use the office to enrich himself and his family.

BO came out of the WH at least $100M wealthier. Because he’s a nice guy? @LeopoldBloom

@LeopoldBloom Sure, they depend on naive people like you to keep believing that. I suppose you missed the part about the FBI trying to set up MLK with a honeypot sting and the recent bits about the CIA and JFKs assassination. Also, there’s not a Spanish speaking country on earth we haven’t secretly or overtly fucked with but I guess that’s just civil servants doing their jobs.

@jackjjackson claims [quote]BO came out of the WH at least $100M wealthier.[/quote] FALSE!! He wasn't rich until they signed the publishing contract!

[quote]While the exact terms of the book deal have not been publicly revealed, multiple reports said Penguin Random House paid more than $60 million to acquire rights to one book each written by Michelle and Barack Obama. The former president has yet to release his book, which is widely expected to detail his own experiences as the 44th U.S. president.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/media/obama-memoir-becoming-released-as-part-of-60m-book-deal[/quote]

Michelle's book has sold 17 million copies so far - more copies of [i]Becoming[/i] in the 1st week than Trump has sold of [i]Art of the Deal[/i] in 20 years!

$19 paperback, $32 hardcover, $650 deluxe edition signed.

That's a minimum of $340 million in sales for Michelle alone; probably closer to $450 million. The bookseller keeps 40%, the publisher keeps 45% to 50%; so you can see how smart the publisher was to bid $60 million for the pair of books (Barack's book sold 3.4 million copies the first year; not bad either).

In short, @jackjjackson, [b]CAPITALISM[/b] earned Barack and Michelle eight figures - read it and weep!!

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Yeah, I know you'll keep repeating your comforting lie about how Obama got rich somehow while President, but we all KNOW it's a lie. Just like your comforting lie that corruption in Illinois elected JFK even though the electoral vote totals PROVE that JFK would have won without Illinois.

[b][i]The trouble with our conservative friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. [/i][/b]

Correct. The payoffs come after leaving office. @ElwoodBlues

@jackjjackson Seventeen million people buying books across the world equals a payoff?? 85% to 90% of the money flowing to booksellers and publishers equals a payoff?? How dumbass is that?? What color is the sky on your planet, dude???

I'll tell you what a payoff looks like. A payoff looks like receiving $2 billion from Saudi Arabia to "manage" like Jared got.

The total from book sales is far less than the Obama’s received. Managing is not owning. You know that. Why do you lie? @ElwoodBlues

@jackjjackson says [quote]The total from book sales is far less than the Obama’s received. [/quote] BULLLSHITTT!!!

The total from book sales is in excess of $400 million. Ten percent plus the $60 million advance is $100 million, which is $30 million more than the Obama's net worth.

Do I have to do ALL the math for you???

[quote]Managing is not owning.[/quote]
Managers take a percentage of funds under management as a yearly fee (ask redred; he knows). What is a quarter percent of $2 billion? I'm sure you can handle that one if you try!!!

So can you. Please respond to the architecture questions. How many BO and MO books have you purchased? Read? @ElwoodBlues

@jackjjackson What architecture questions? This is the first mention of the word in this thread. Are you talking about the financial architecture of book sales? The fact that 85% of sales go to someone other than the author? Makes it a rather expensive way to pay a "bribe" doesn't it??

I have a family member who purchased Michelle's book, in answer to your desperate attempt to change the subject, [b]LOL!!![/b]

@jackjjackson He wrote a bestseller and was paid accordingly. If you have evidence that he earned that money illegally, please produce it or STFU and let the adults talk.

Meanwhile, you have no problem with Trump going out of his way to stay at properties he owns so he can overbill the federal government for rooms for the Secret Service.

@redredred Actually, that is civil servants doing their jobs. I never said all government programs are beneficial. Many Republican ones are destructive.

What I'm objecting to is the ludicrous conspiracy theory that the civil service is composed of liberals whose sole purpose is to thwart the plans of the orange god-emperor you worship.

First you have to find an adult you know. @LeopoldBloom

Please scroll down to the one with pictures of houses. Surprised you missed that. @ElwoodBlues

The federal civil services mainly consists of bureaucrats pushing nonsense I am mostly Americans want or need. @LeopoldBloom

@jackjjackson I told you where the money came from. Here, let me cut and paste it again.

[quote]While the exact terms of the book deal have not been publicly revealed, multiple reports said Penguin Random House paid more than $60 million to acquire rights to one book each written by Michelle and Barack Obama. The former president has yet to release his book, which is widely expected to detail his own experiences as the 44th U.S. president.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/media/obama-memoir-becoming-released-as-part-of-60m-book-deal[/quote]

Michelle's book has sold 17 million copies so far - more copies of [i]Becoming[/i] in the 1st week than Trump has sold of [i]Art of the Deal[/i] in 20 years!

$19 paperback, $32 hardcover, $650 deluxe edition signed.

That's a minimum of $340 million in sales for Michelle alone; probably closer to $450 million. The bookseller keeps 40%, the publisher keeps 45% to 50%; so you can see how smart the publisher was to bid $60 million for the pair of books (Barack's book sold 3.4 million copies the first year; not bad either).

In short, @jackjjackson, [b]CAPITALISM[/b] earned Barack and Michelle eight figures - read it and weep!!

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[b]P.S.[/b]
Yeah, I know you'll keep repeating your comforting lie about how Obama got rich somehow while President, but we all KNOW it's a lie. Just like your comforting lie that corruption in Illinois elected JFK even though the electoral vote totals PROVE that JFK would have won without Illinois.

[quote]The total from book sales is far less than the Obama’s received. [/quote]

The total from book sales is in excess of $400 million. Ten percent plus the $60 million advance is $100 million, which is $30 million more than the Obama's net worth.

Do I have to do ALL the math for you???

[quote]Managing is not owning.[/quote]
Managers take a percentage of funds under management as a yearly fee (ask redred; he knows). What is a quarter percent of $2 billion? I'm sure you can handle that one if you try!!! @jackjjackson

@LeopoldBloom That is all the State department does and that’s been true since the Wilson administration.

@jackjjackson Until there's a government shutdown, and people realize how much the government does for them.

@redredred Which is why your orange god-emperor hates the State Dept. more than any other agency, at least going by how he decimated it.

We only need 10% of those fu crop s at most and those would be better performed by merit replacements. @LeopoldBloom