“Oh my!” George Takei is right!

@wildbill83 why are we the only first world country with a crazy gun death problem (barring war)?

@DailyFlash how come people only focus on gun related deaths, and completely ignore the mass stabbing attacks that occur all over the world?

more people get stabbed in London than shot in New York... but that's okay, because at least it wasn't a gun... 🙄

@wildbill83 show me some stats. Not a YouTube video or sketchy blog or podcast.

Maybe before you make up facts you should do a quick Google search.

@DailyFlash https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-43610936


yep, that gun ban worked out so well didn't it?

@DailyFlash [quote]About 100 stabbing deaths in London 2019 (their worst year)
About 800 gun deaths in NYC 2019[/quote]

your words...

[quote] show me some stats. Not a YouTube video or sketchy blog or podcast.[/quote]

@wildbill83 2019 there were only 147 murders total in London

@DailyFlash in case you missed it the first time, you're obviously kinda "slow"...

[b]https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-43610936[/b]

That chart was not in that article btw. And the numbers don’t match up at all.

@DailyFlash because they are two separate cited sources, not the ZERO cited sources you provided in response...

are you senile or something, suffering from dementia perhaps?

@wildbill83 so which one is correct then?

@DailyFlash both are more credible than you...

@wildbill83 I think you conveniently left out that the chart us for the entire country.

UK murder rate 2021 9.9 per Milliion
US murder rate 2020 78 per million
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/10/27/what-we-know-about-the-increase-in-u-s-murders-in-2020/
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/homicideinenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2021

@wildbill83 If you look at the overall figures for 2019, the UK population was approximately 67,530,161 (https://www.populationpyramid.net/united-kingdom/2019/) compared to the US at 329,064,916 (https://www.populationpyramid.net/united-states-of-america/2019/). Taking the figure you presented of 285 knife deaths in the UK in that year, we have a figure of 0.422 knife deaths per 100,000 head of population.

Homicide by firearm in the US in the same year totalled 14,414 (https://usafacts.org/data/topics/security-safety/crime-and-justice/firearms/firearm-deaths/), giving a figure of 4.38 firearm homicides per 100,000 head of population. That does not include suicide or other firearm related offences. I believe the UK figure includes all deaths by knife which will probably include any sharp implement including broken bottles, [i]etc[/i].

While London may have had its worst year since 1945 and had a greater murder rate than New York, that only tells a very small part of the story. Taken as a whole, the firearm related murders in the US during 2019 were proportionately far higher than the knife related murders in the UK in the same year.

@Bushranger the populations of both are similar. The articles talks of a couple bad months. Murders in London don’t approach any substantial US city.

@DailyFlash That's why I compared the the per capita numbers of the overall population. Whichever way you cut it, the US has far more firearm related murders than the UK has knife related ones. But the population of the UK is substantially smaller than that of the US.