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Are Trump voters even listening to their leader, or is it just the rest of the world that has to suffer hearing his logorrhea?

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DogMan · 61-69, M
Lets just watch the ultimate outcome. I don't listen to all the fluff and exaggerations.
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DogMan · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues Are you worried about China sending another virus our way?
@DogMan China could not have known that tRump can't handle difficulties. China could not have known how BADLY the tRump admin would respond to a pandemic.

All through Trump's final year, our Covid per capita death rate was DOUBLE that of countries like Canada & Germany, resulting in about 550,000 Covid deaths under Trump.

If Trump had handled Covid as well as, say, Justin Trudeau, we'd have had 275,000 FEWER DEATHS! Put another way, Trump's mis-management of Covid cost more deaths than THREE Viet Nam wars!! Three Viet Nams in a SINGLE YEAR, not spread out over ten years like the actual war!!!

Sure, Covid came from outside. And different leaders in different countries managed it differently. Trump's piss-poor Covid management is made clear by the relative per capita death rates.

"I look at it this way," Birx told CNN's Chief Medical Correspondent Sanjay Gupta. "The first time, we have an excuse. There were about 100,000 deaths that came from that original surge. All of the rest of them, in my mind, could have been mitigated or decreased substantially."

DogMan · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues OH Pleeeeze, NO ONE KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT A PANDEMIC, including the armchair Democrats.

Even King Fauci didn't know squat about what to do. As you remember he changed his mind multiple times about what
to do and how to handle it.

To believe that Hillary would have faired better, is very naive. Although I do believe that all things being the same,
the MSM would have made it LOOK like she did better. It's all perception. And the MSM tells people how to
perceive things.

Thanks for the cool chart, I had no idea that people died due to covid. 🙄
@DogMan says
NO ONE KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT A PANDEMIC
Actually, as you remember, Obama had set up a cabinet level pandemic response team in 2016, in response to Ebola, SARS, and other dangerous outbreaks. And, as you remember, tRump dissolved that team in May 2018. Of course, tRump spent the first 5 weeks of the pandemic pretending he knew something and lying that it would all go away by spring.

As you remember he changed his mind multiple times about what to do and how to handle it.
Fauci changed recommendations as conditions and knowledge of the pandemic changed. Fauci was 100% data driven. That's how science actually works.

To believe that Hillary would have faired better, is very naive.
Nations like Germany & Australia did twice as well as tRump!! South Korea did far better than those two!! As did Australia & New Zealand!! The US response was mediocre at best; not world class.

Thanks for the cool chart, I had no idea that people died due to covid.
You'd be surprised how many people on here claim silly things like Covid was just the flu mis-identified.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@DogMan In New Zealand we chose a rational, science-based, response to covid, augmented by excellent leadership. We went early and we went hard, and we stayed the course.

If the americans had done the same their proportional death rate would have been 115,000

But they eschewed science for the babble of a bleach-touting buffoon whose leadership involved telling everyone how wonderful he was and how there was nothing to worry about - simply because he didn't have the slightest clue what to do.
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@DogMan If tRump didn't know what to do, why did he keep spreading lies? No other first world leader felt the need to spread lies.


BTW, Fauci changed recommendations as conditions and knowledge of the pandemic changed. Fauci was 100% data driven. That's how science actually works.

Democrats must have thought Trump was a scientist that knew everything about pandemics.
Oh, believe me, we know how ignorant tRump was and is. Yet he kept talking like he knew what to do for the pandemic; what was that about??

In addition to the five weeks of lies listed above, tRump recommended both hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin; both of which did NOTHING against Covid, and killed people who took too much.

And let's not forget tRump's famous remarks about injecting disinfectants! In response, the manufacturer of Lysol had to issue a public statement warning against ingesting or injecting its products!!
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DogMan · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues I hope you didn't drink bleach, after Democrats thought he said that.

I take Trump with a grain of salt. He BETTER do a good job, or he will not have the legacy he wants.
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newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@DogMan
Are you saying your entire country closed down?

Yes

Did you stay locked in your homes?


Yes
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@DogMan
I take Trump with a grain of salt

You say that only to ease the cognitive dissonance you feel because he constantly lies, misleads, fails, and treats his followers with barely-concealed contempt.

In practice you fawn around him obediently because he tells you he can make the fear and people who aren't you go away - which is, of course, just another of trump's lies
DogMan · 61-69, M
@newjaninev2 You say that only to ease the cognitive dissonance you feel because he constantly lies, misleads, fails, and treats his followers with barely-concealed contempt.

In practice you fawn around him obediently because he tells you he can make the fear and people who aren't you go away - which is, of course, just another of trump's lies


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You obviously do not know me at all. Or Trump. It's OK, I understand. You have Trump hate beaten into you every
day for the past 10 years.

Trump is one of the few politicians that does NOT have contempt for his constituents. Unlike Democrats that believe every
promise their leaders make, we on the right do not. We know when Trump is saying what he has to say, like all politicians.

We also know when he is baiting the MSM. He loves to say shit that makes the left go crazy, and we on the right love it.

We know he is a narcissist. We know he is braggadocios. We also know that he is doing what we elected him to do.

We immediately got our secure border, you know, the same border than Biden said we needed a Trillion dollar bill in
order to secure, which was a huge lie on Biden's part. But thats ok, we know politicians lie, and we don't take the bait.

Remember the Democrats lie that said Trump will send us into a recession or worse? The stock market came back
after it started falling in Bidens last few months. It actually went up right after Trump was elected, because we all
knew he would fix the economy.

You know, sometimes you should look past your frothing hatred and see what is happening, instead of listening
to other Trump haters.

I could list many more things to like about this administration. But I would be wasting my time, as you seem too
far gone.