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I'd be fascinated to know if ANYONE has a definitive answer to this question: Who or what is the Aintree Iron referred to in the song ?
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ThePerfectUsername · 70-79, M
The Aintree Iron was nickname Mike McGear came up with for Brian Epstein.
Picklebobble2 · 61-69, M
@ThePerfectUsername 😄Well that's a new one !

1. So far i've heard that it was a name given to a pub that stood on two different street corners, so the shape of it was considered an 'iron'.

2. A Locomotive turntable just outside the Aintree shunting yard.

3. Part of the Melling road which crosses the Aintree racecourse which, when viewed from above is shaped like a hammer.

4. A reference to the Liverpool Striker Tommy Smith.

5. The guide rails at the Aintree racecourse. Which were allegedly taken down and melted down for the war effort during the second world war.

6. A local Stout that was brewed in Liverpool. Stout known for having a strong iron content that was recommended for pregnant mums to be at the time.

The list seems endless
ThePerfectUsername · 70-79, M
I first time I heard that explanation was from a scouser when we were on a maritime training course together in Liverpool back in the 60's.

Iron Hoof (scouse slang for poof) was the local derogatory term used for homosexuals at the time. Brian Epstein was a homosexual - who managed Mike McGears' brothers band (the beatles) - and happened to live in Aintree.

Ergo the Aintree iron was a direct reference to Brian Epstein who was instrumental in bringing the Scaffold to the attention of the public. @Picklebobble2
Picklebobble2 · 61-69, M
@ThePerfectUsername I could believe that more if there were perhaps a London/Cockney reference somewhere within it.
Not sure it makes a lot of sense from a Liverpudlian/Scouser point of view.

Urban dictionary defines it as a cockney rhyming slang term....
ThePerfectUsername · 70-79, M
Well cockney rhyming slang did travel a fair bit back in the days when the music scene was all about Carnaby Street fashion and Liverpool music. The scaffold also collaborated with the like of Tim Rice Elton John and Cliff Richards who I suspect were probably London based. That might be the direction in which any connection might have been.

This just in from scaffold wiki page...
McGear has been reluctant to explain the reference in the song to "Aintree Iron".[3]
Which to my mind would tie in with it being "a slur" that wouldn't be appreciated by people who weren't already in the know. Surely if it'd been a reference to any of the harmless things you mentioned he'd have just said so? @Picklebobble2
Picklebobble2 · 61-69, M
@ThePerfectUsername Gradually coming to that conclusion myself. One of those nice little mysteries we'll probably never know the truth behind.
ThePerfectUsername · 70-79, M
I'll tell you what'd convert this theory in fact for me... if someone could come up with a connection between scaffold and a contemporary cockney such as Joe Brown or Lonnie Donegon. Wouldn't that be a cracker. 😁 @Picklebobble2
Picklebobble2 · 61-69, M