John Coltrane, Duke Ellington, "In A Sentimental Mood" (1962)
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helenS · 36-40, F
I wonder who the drummer is? He's good!
It's incredible how nicely that music works. I can't hear much interplay between the two musicians, the Duke is mainly playing supportive chords when Coltrane plays his solo. Coltrane is very much the star here.
It's intergenerational music. They come from different backgrounds. The Duke started making music when black musicians were essentially confined to "entertaining" the audience, whereas Coltrane grew up as a musician when Jazz was becoming "serious".
I love that tune, and I have listened to it so many times. The whole album is fantastic.
Thank you for posting that beautiful piece of music 🌷
It's incredible how nicely that music works. I can't hear much interplay between the two musicians, the Duke is mainly playing supportive chords when Coltrane plays his solo. Coltrane is very much the star here.
It's intergenerational music. They come from different backgrounds. The Duke started making music when black musicians were essentially confined to "entertaining" the audience, whereas Coltrane grew up as a musician when Jazz was becoming "serious".
I love that tune, and I have listened to it so many times. The whole album is fantastic.
Thank you for posting that beautiful piece of music 🌷
bijouxbroussard · F
@helenS
With respect, in our segregated country, that would’ve been a mainstream cultural perspective. In our community Duke was a working musician long before whites "discovered" him. But the difference in his type of jazz from Coltrane’s probably was generational.
They come from different backgrounds. The Duke started making music when black musicians were essentially confined to "entertaining" the audience, whereas Coltrane grew up as a musician when Jazz was becoming "serious".
With respect, in our segregated country, that would’ve been a mainstream cultural perspective. In our community Duke was a working musician long before whites "discovered" him. But the difference in his type of jazz from Coltrane’s probably was generational.
helenS · 36-40, F
@bijouxbroussard Thank you for your informed comment. Perhaps I'm totally wrong, but I see early (= pre-bebop) jazz essentially as music played by black musicians to entertain a predominantly white audience, before the music was hijacked by white bandleaders, who adapted the style to more common white tastes. There is, in my opinion, a direct link from minstrel shows to early jazz, reproducing racial stereotypes.
I know how problematic my statements are: I live in Europe, and my cultural background is totally different. Jazz music is very important to me, which I why I try to understand its roots.
I know how problematic my statements are: I live in Europe, and my cultural background is totally different. Jazz music is very important to me, which I why I try to understand its roots.
bijouxbroussard · F
@helenS Jazz music, blues, bebop, swing was music played by black musicians in their own clubs. Whites would go into black clubs and listen, the word would get around, and two things happened: the musicians themselves were hired to perform at white clubs for white audiences (clubs blacks were not allowed to patronize). And much of the music itself was co-opted by white musicians so it could be enjoyed by white audiences without having to involve or pay black people at all.
That was an effect of segregation in the U.S.
That was an effect of segregation in the U.S.
helenS · 36-40, F
@bijouxbroussard Thank you – here's my favorite bebop tune: "KoKo", by Charlie Parker
Very important to me, because when I heard that the first time it immediately entered my mind that there's a new world of music, for me to discover.
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Very important to me, because when I heard that the first time it immediately entered my mind that there's a new world of music, for me to discover.