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I learnt so much about guitars yesterday

My son needed his guitar restrung. The strings are about £8 but the shop wanted double that again to fit them. I appreciate the work but...

So we called @OldBrit who said bring it over and l can show you and you can video it. My sons friend also brought his guitar which the shop wanted more money to do which I then didn't understand. I now sort of do😂😂

Gather in his garage at one of his workbenches. He raises an eyebrow at the friends guitar. It has a Floyd (think that's right) so much more difficult to do. But there's feeler gauges (yes I laughed out loud) he's explaining this and that and never do it more than x etc.

We've not even taken the strings off! I now understand the shops costs! But he patiently showed the boys as I tried to film on an Ipad. Explaining the tools the friend needs to buy. So many different little allen key things and screw drivers etc.

But all done eventually. Then he did my son's. Quickly! He showed how to adjust the bridge so it's easier to do on his and how to fit the strings to the tuning peg things so they don't slip.

Finally they test them in his guitar room. A total Aladdin's cave of guitars, amps, pedals etc. He even loaded some files for my sons friend into my Ipad for one of his box things which he was showing how to use the computer to get different sounds on.

Seems to me you need to be musically gifted, an engineer and a computer genius to play guitar!
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Oneofthestormboys · 56-60, M
Hi Angela,
Everything you need to know is on YouTube nowadays and I promise you’ll get the hang of it in no time. One of the reasons people get really sucked into guitars and playing them is that it’s so interesting and gives you lots of knowledge about stuff that you otherwise wouldn’t find out about. Even down to woods, wood finishing, growth patterns, all sorts. It’s a bloody brilliant hobby!
GoFish ·
aww thats nice
A relative plays, & builds guitars as a woodworking hobby.

I've been inspired to get an electric.

Deceptively technical, you can really tweak them to produce a given sound.
Boxes and pedals further expand their capabilities.

Looks like your son found an expert mentor!
That's quite an education Angela ;-) If you don't have a tuner, they are handy to have. There are battery ones, and a USB rechargeable is more up front, but in the long run not needing to buy replacement batteries it works out.

Is his guitar acoustic or electric?
AngelaR80 · 46-50, F
@VeronicaJane electric. He's got a tuner my daughter bought him one for Christmas
OldBrit · 61-69, M
Always happy to try and help. Sorry it took so long on H's one 😂
ArishMell · 70-79, M
Glad that your son learnt how to re-string his guitar.

Replacing a string is a necessary but basic skill for any player of a guitar, violin or other stringed instrument, but is hardly engineering. Besides, the engineer designs things, not mend 'em.

Fitting a string should not need tools. After all, one day he may need do that on stage!

I can see adjusting the bridge would need tools and some technical knowledge of the instrument, though screwdrivers and Allen keys are basic, universal tools; feeler-gauges not very much less so.

The difficult bit should be the tuning and playing.

I have a lot of sympathy for your son, and you, in needing seek help to replace a broken guitar string. It seems very many people now find it hard to see how to perform basic practical tasks by examining them - and I don't think it's their fault.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@OldBrit I would regard any stringed instrument like that as very badly designed no matter how well manufactured. There is no need for such complexity.
OldBrit · 61-69, M
@ArishMell depends on the engineering brief. The brief with the Floyd was to produce a vibrato system which maintains accurate tuning despite aggressive use of the vibrato arm. It cannot be argued that a well set up Floyd achieves that. Arguably Eddie Van Halen, Steve Vai, Joe Satriani etc wouldn't have produced the music they have without it's introduction.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@OldBrit Thankyou. I can't help thinking it still shouldn't need tools to replace a string. Though I can see that yanking on the vibrato arm must greatly increase the load on the guitar's structure, not just risk slipping strings out of tune.
fun4us2b · M
That's so great so nice of @OldBrit sharing, and I bet he enjoyed sharing also. Learning an instrument and falling in love with it is a gift that lasts a lifetime.
I have taught many young people a proper set-up technique & how to service their own guitars. Here in the states they charge about $75 dollars per set-up & re-string!! I teach people how to SAVE that money & keep it in their own pockets!
AngelaR80 · 46-50, F
@RockinPop54 here the shop wanted £35 to restring and £75 to set up. I didn't mind paying for the expertese but it's a lot when it's something you do regularly.
@AngelaR80 That's why I teach them to keep it in their pockets.
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JohnnyNoir · 61-69, M
I've seen musician friends pretty much re-engineer instruments before playing them. It's not enough to play it right off of the rack
uncalled4 · 56-60, M
Ah. The Floyd Rose system, yes it's a pain. Not something I'd want to work with long term. I'm not a lead player anyway.
OldBrit · 61-69, M
@uncalled4 I can hate Floyds luckily this one wasn't badly behaved just needed a bit of fiddling. Even intonation setting is too tricky for me. I much prefer a Wilkinson vs100/50 myself
uncalled4 · 56-60, M
@OldBrit It's things like setting up a guitar that makes me.....be a drummer instead.
Musicman · 61-69, M
You are so lucky to have a friend like him close by. Learning how to restring your guitar is a necessity. Having an electric tuner is too. Hopefully you can come over more often and he can help the boys become better players. 🙂

 
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