What concerns you about the current Iran Israel war?

@iamthe99 You don't really believe that.

Looking for attention is one thing but let's keep some reality.

@JonUK41 I believe it a lot more than any of the so-called "evidence" that Iran is on the verge of developing a bomb itself.

You've also got to wonder: Israel has refused to sign up to the nuclear non-proliferation treaty, and it does not allow IEA inspections of its nuclear sites. That does not smack of a country with "peaceful intentions". It wouldn't be tolerated for Iran, why is it OK for Israel?

I still doubt it will go that far, but the current regime believes it has carte-blanche, and it is capable of anything.

@iamthe99 So you started by saying Israel is on the verge of using a nuke and now you're admitting you doubt it will go that far. As mentioned earlier, just looking for attention.

Common sense prevails in the end :)

@JonUK41 I doubt it will go that far, but it's still my biggest concern.

@iamthe99 I believe you've proved my point. Your biggest concern is something you think won't happen.

You should probably make a post saying you're concerned about a tornado in the UK. Even though you know it won't happen.

@JonUK41 I never said it won't happen. I doubt it will happen, there's a difference. And it very much COULD happen.

@iamthe99 Lots of things could happen. We know Russia has nukes and Putin could launch them against the UK.

Are you concerned about that?

@JonUK41 Here we go again with the deflection. I'm not talking about Russia. (and no, I'm not).

@iamthe99 Of course you're not. You don't like Putin but you hate Trump. Trump is aligned with Israel so you have to hate Israel and side with Iran. You don't care about Iran's record on human rights. You'd scream all day long about the death penalty in the USA but you don't care how many people Iran execute. Iran must be your friends because they're your enemy's enemy.

So you have to pretend to be more concerned with Israel using a nuke than Russia.

You make me laugh because your thought process is so easy to see through.

@JonUK41 I think at this point he’ll align with any regime that is against Israel.

@TangledUpInBlue At the moment, yes I think I will. And by Israel, I mean the regime.

@iamthe99 The other day, you went so far as to deny the reality of farm attacks in South Africa, even after we had a detailed discussion and I provided evidence. You continue to claim it’s all fabricated, despite the information I shared.
It seems your strong opposition to Israel is influencing your stance to the point where you’re willing to support the South African government’s denial of serious local issues ( for example ) simply because of their pro-Palestine position. That’s concerning.
It’s worth reflecting on the inconsistency here: you criticise Israel for actions you view as oppressive, but then appear to support regimes like Iran’s, which has a record of authoritarianism and human rights violations. You condemn Trump as a dictator, then you seem to excuse similar or worse behaviour from other governments.( why are women’s rights important you said it’s not relevant)
This kind of selective outrage undermines the very principles you claim to stand for.

@TangledUpInBlue As usual, you have completely misconstrued what I said. White farmers are not being targeted specifically, and I pointed out that more non-White farmers had actually been murdered, and that the overall figures were a drop in the ocean in a country that has one of the highest murder rates in the world.

You used so-called "evidence" that Trump presented, to "confirm" White genocide in S Africa, which was all fabricated. And that is a fact.

Trump IS a dictator. And so is Netanyahu, and Khamanei of course. I condemn them all. But Israel is the greatest threat to stability in the Middle East at present. And that's fact.

And 100% wrong 🤣

@iamthe99 I live in South Africa. I didn’t reference Trump or use any of his so-called “evidence,” so your claim there is false.You’re also wrong to say white farmers aren’t being specifically targeted. That narrative has been disproven by multiple reports, testimonies, and data from people on the ground — not foreign politicians. Yes, South Africa has a high overall murder rate, but that doesn’t erase the targeted and often brutal nature of many farm attacks. Dismissing it entirely reflects a political bias, not objectivity.

The bigger issue here is that you’re not really open to discussion, you shut down anything that doesn’t fit your narrative. You claim people constantly misconstrue your words, but maybe it’s not everyone else who’s the problem. If multiple people are reacting the same way, it might be time to ask whether your communication is as clear and fair as you think it is.
You say you oppose all dictators… yet you selectively rage against one and excuse others, depending on how well they align with your worldview. That’s not principle. That’s partisanship.

Just something to think about.

Trump IS a dictator. And so is Netanyahu, and Khamanei of course. I condemn them all. But Israel is the greatest threat to stability in the Middle East at present. And that's fact. Perhaps you could explore those themes. Consider the petro do;lar whilst you’re at it too. Good day.

@TangledUpInBlue Then prove to me that there is a White genocide going on in S Africa. There's certainly a vendetta against S African farmers of all races, that I don't dispute. But I dismiss claims of White genocide. Provide actual verifiable evidence to the contrary.

@iamthe99 Why should I have to prove anything to you, again? I shared plenty the other day, but you didn’t engage with it. You didn’t read it properly, and you certainly didn’t listen. Instead, you proceeded to lecture me on the reality of a country I actually live in, as if my firsthand perspective means nothing.
And let’s be clear: I never used the word “genocide.” That’s your word, not mine. So before demanding proof for claims I haven’t made, take a moment to engage with what’s actually being saidnot what you’ve decided to argue against.

If you’re genuinely interested in open, good-faith dialogue, then show it. Until then, it’s hard to see the point in having another one-sided exchange where only one of us is expected to listen.

@TangledUpInBlue Then remind me which thread that was on and I’ll have another look