Did you know that Hamas admits it uses human shields in Gaza?

@Northwest You seem a tad sarcastic. I like sarcasm.

@Northwest Are you familiar with the concept of clean hands in the law?


When Hamas admits to using human shields, it's admitting to the commission of war crimes. Can Hamas expect sympathy for war crimes visited upon the residents of Gaza by Israel? Does it have clean hands?

@flipper1966 Wrong analogy.

@Northwest OK. But does Hamas have clean hands?

@flipper1966 Whataboutism, and add another strawman to your question.

@Northwest President Obama says neither side has clean hands. I agree with him. Don't you?

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@Northwest And I doubt whataboutism applies here. Hamas' use of human shields and its intentional refusal to build bomb shelters while building terror tunnels means that Hamas's war crimes (use of human shields) contribute to the very Israeli war crimes (indiscriminate killing of Palestinian civilians) that Hamas complains about. It's about clean hands.

@flipper1966 With this comment, you're combining whataboutism and strawman propositions. I'm very familiar with these types of deflections.

@Northwest Whataboutism in my understanding concerns raising a totally different issue. Hamas' use of human shields and Israel's indiscriminate killing are not different issues. These issues are intertwined. Hamas' use of human shields promotes civilian casualties. In negligence law, by analogy, a defendant's allegation of contributory negligence by the plaintiff is not whataboutism.

@flipper1966 [quote]Whataboutism in my understanding concerns raising a totally different issue.[/quote]

And that you did.

@Northwest One last question. Do you not believe that both Hamas and Israel are at fault?

@flipper1966 [quote]Do you not believe that both Hamas and Israel are at fault?[/quote]

And another run at whataboutism.

@Northwest Thanks for an interesting exchange. 👌