Why is everyone so happy being locked up? [I Seek Freedom]

Everyones worried about a virus that's had 9 months to kill us all and hasn't managed to kill even a fraction of 1% of us. Now you're worried about the return of the mutant ronas that will definitely kill all humanity this time.

You're fine not seeing your family and friends. You're fine waiting outside stores in pointless distanced lines. You're fine wrapping a muzzle round your face. You're all fine with the idea of receiving a coerced, rushed vaccine for a cold virus. You're fine never doing anything anymore.

Isn't anyone in the least bit skeptical? Wasn't it just "3 weeks to flatten the curve" in March? It's 1 day before NYE now.

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Nomoretomorrow · 46-50, M

It hasn't killed many people *because * we used social distancing, lockdown, masks, etc. Without these the death rate would have been much higher. I'm as sick of it all as the next person, especially as I'd planned to do so much this year that has had to go by the wayside and that has got to me but it is what it is. As for scepticism one of my jobs is a care worker in a home and I've seen a number of residents die from covid and many of my colleagues badly stricken, some quite dangerously. I sympathise with you I truly do but, despite vaccines being rolled out, we're still in the thick of it especially with these more contagious versions. Just hang on in there, the jabs might not bring about an immediate end to all this but they are a step in the right direction and will mark the beginning of the return to some sort of normality.

similarexperience

@Nomoretomorrow Thank you for your empathy, I take that. Your reasoning is fallacious though, called "post hoc ergo propter hoc" - false causation.

Nomoretomorrow · 46-50, M

@similarexperience explain.

snowbelt · 61-69, M

@similarexperience How is the reasoning "post hoc ergo prompter hoc"? (By the way, the word is propter, not prompter. There is objective evidence both in the US and abroad that mask wearing and other simple precautions that were noted reduces the death toll. That's a fact, not a false causality.

similarexperience

it's too easy to say that lockdowns are the reason deaths are not especially high - partly because we don't know what would have happened if there had been no lockdown. I presume nothing would have happened.

You know...just cause the rooster crows first doesn't mean it caused the sun to rise!

You could also say that if lockdowns worked so well at controlling the rate of death then why have we needed subsequent lockdowns? it implies the 1st lockdown failed.why repeat again what was shown to not work?

similarexperience

@snowbelt thanks for spotting that. I'll change it now.

Nomoretomorrow · 46-50, M

@similarexperience not so. Initially Boris wanted to "take (coronavirus pandemic) on the chin" until the death rate of doing so was calculated. Lockdowns work while they are in place. When they are lifted the disease rises again, also countries that locked down early, strictly and for a long enough time, eg New Zealand have lower death rates and infection rates. Asian countries that routinely wear masks also have lower infection rates. Its common sense, anything that puts a barrier between people, ie masks, social distancing, lockdowns will slow the infection rate and save lives. It won't get rid of the disease, but will slow it saving lives.