In what way could we make the World better?

@ABCDEF7 You can't force religion on anyone bozo

@TJNewton There is difference between religion and spirituality. Don't mix them. Spirituality has no religion.

@ABCDEF7 How does one compel others to become spiritual ? 🤔

@bijouxbroussard No need to compel, just add meditation in schools.

@ABCDEF7 Idc if there is a difference you cant force religion or spirituality on anyone

@ABCDEF7 Nap time. 😴

@TJNewton It's not about forcing, it's about cultivating a new generation who is more sensible and humane.

Religion is about believing, while spirituality is about seeking.

@ABCDEF7 [quote]No need to compel, just add meditation in schools.[/quote]
As a taxpayer and former student, I don't want either my taxes or my time to get wasted in pseudoscience.

Anyone who's into meditation can practice it on their own free time without forcing others and/or financially burdening the community.

@Elessar Exactly

@Elessar As a former student, I didn't wanted that mathematics should be taught in schools. So mathematics should also be removed from the curriculum.

As a tax payer, I want no money should be wasted on any sort of education. So all government operated schools be closed. Who so ever wants to study, can study on their own.

@ABCDEF7 The fact is that the effect of teaching (or not teaching) mathematics (and pretty much every other subject in public school) is directly and objectively measurable; good luck operating a country without economists, engineers, architects, doctors, physicists, chemists; I can assure you the great majority of taxpayers don't want to revert to living like cavemen while the rest of the world develops at a much faster pace. On the other hand, society can do just fine without pseudoscience.

@Elessar Hahaha.. 😅 You took the example literally.

@ABCDEF7 It's not my fault if your example sucked and (predictably) failed to make any point come across.

@Elessar If you are not able to understand what I tried to say with the example, definitely it's not your fault. You can't do anything about that. I agree with you. And sympathizes with you that this sucked you.

@ABCDEF7 You yourself don't know what you wanted to say or you would've used a proper example instead of a failing one, lol

You're strawmaning my argument from "taxpayers money shouldn't be wasted into coercing people in stuff that isn't demonstrably useful for societal development" into "taxpayers money should only go in what interests me".

@Elessar Why you can coerce a kid to study mathematics? There is no need to coerce anything.

"taxpayers money should only go in what interests me". me? You didn't understood the example, and repeating yourself like a kid.

I think you have missed some of my comments, or really not able to understood. Your IQ level, makes me think I should not be wasting time with kids.

@ABCDEF7 [quote]Why you can coerce a kid to study mathematics? [/quote]
What's the part of "good luck operating a country without economists, engineers, architects, doctors, physicists, chemists" that you didn't understand? Comparing meditation (pseudoscience) with mathematics (demonstrably critical for society the way you know it) is rather foolish.

[quote]"taxpayers money should only go in what interests me". me?[/quote]
You know what a strawman argument is? Because that's exactly what you're throwing at me right now. Last time in your very last reply: [i]Why you can coerce a kid to study mathematics? [/i]

[quote]You didn't understood the example[/quote]
The example that initiated the strawman I'm calling out? There isn't much to understand.

[quote]Your IQ level, makes me think I should not be wasting time with kids.[/quote]
Generally, those who boast about IQ, give IQ an enormous importance or ridicule other people IQ are individuals who have the brainpower of the average broomstick. This conversation is only reinforcing my opinion on this.

@Elessar I said, [quote]There is no need to coerce anything.[/quote]. It meant we were not going to coerce meditation, but you didn't got it. Or deliberately ignored it.

By posting an example it meant, like you have an opinion, someone else can have a different opinion, but neither you nor me is the only authority that should decide, it is done with voting. Hinting again by saying "me?" was to hint you again that you or me are not the authority, no law should be made just by you or me feels something. But you didn't got it. Mentioning about mathematics was part of the example, and it was to make you further clear that be it mathematics or meditation, it should not be coerced. But instead of taking it as an example you kept on comparing mathematics with meditation, not comprehending/ ignoring even after I told you it's an example and you should not take it literary. Spirituality is not like religion that can be coerced because it tells person to recognize his/her true self, it's not about imposing. That I also made clear by saying, "There is no need to coerce anything". But you didn't got even then. Then I don't have option to doubt your intelligence, Otherwise you can be deliberately ignoring thing to continue the argument, and kept on repeating yourself. In either case I don't think there is any point of discussion with you.

@ABCDEF7 Maybe you don't remember how school works; the moment you introduce something as a subject, attendants are obligated to go through it. But that's not the main point, the moment you introduce anything as a subject, someone has to pay for its teaching, and taxes aren't optional either. Hence, "coercion".