Florida Abortion Ban

@Kodel Quite right. I’m fairly undecided about abortion outside of rape/incest up to 12-15 weeks. I think it should be rare and generally discouraged. I certainly don’t believe that anyone should support abortion after viability (even for cases of rape and incest).

It’s certainly true that life begins at conception but I don’t think a fertilised egg is a baby. But it does quickly develop into a baby.

Pro choice people seem to think it’s like an in growing toenail or tumour that can be removed at any stage without any moral implications.

@TheGreatestEver123 For me it's the entitlement that drives me nuts.
"My body my choice."
Whenever I hear that my response is, "Absolutely. It is your body and your choice. You chose to have unprotected sex and funnily enough, that's exactly what happens when you have unprotected sex."
I've equated it like this. It's like covering the sensor on your TV remote, pressing the power button and then pulling the power plug out of the socket because the TV turned on.

@FaithfulDamagedSoul It certainly seems to me that abortions are being used more frequently than birth control. If birth control was being used properly, I doubt there would even be a conversation about abortion. People would only be using it as a LAST RESORT rather than a first resort.
I never said abortions are easy on a woman but I'll happily turn your statement on its head and say that you're a dipshit of a woman if you treat abortion as a form of birth control. It's not. People like you allow young women to be careless with their bodies and then turn around to say, "My body my choice" when they screw up. Abortion is not a right. It's an alleviation of responsibility both before and after the fact. In certain circumstances, it's more than fair to use it. In instances where people haven't done their research and found out that 2+2=4, you get exactly what you ask for.

@Kodel you wouldn’t be saying that if you were a woman. As I’ve already mentioned, pro “lifers” like you are only interested in vilifying the woman as it was her fault, and her fault alone, that she became pregnant with an unwanted baby.

Reported for hate speech.

@SW-User Nope, I'd still be saying it if I was a woman.
Both men and women are responsible for "preventing" a pregnancy, however women have MANY more preventative methods than men do. Plus women are also the ones who get pregnant. Like I said before, in the freak occurrences where preventative methods failed or when there was involuntarily impregnation, I don't have a problem. When abortion is treated like a form of contraception, that's where I have a problem.
I couldn't care less about vilifying women. That's not the point. My point isn't to shame women. It's to encourage women to educate themselves so they don't feel like they can rely on abortion. If you really want to play it as a question of "fault" then I'd simply ask, "If you're trying to avoid getting pregnant, why did you have unprotected sex?" It makes no sense.

Clearly in that case you have no idea what hate speech is. I don't hate women or even abortion. I just don't like people misusing a system to alleviate responsibility prior to or after a poor decision has been made.

@FaithfulDamagedSoul You could always try abstinence? If you really don't want to have a kid, that's a 100% guaranteed method of achieving that without compromising your hormones. Either that or just avoid vanilla sex. There are a few alternatives.
I love it when people quote me but leave out context.

"When abortion is treated like a form of contraception, that's where I have a problem."

It's not the kind of problem that hurts my feelings or my virtues. I'll stay away from whoever I choose to stay away from. They may have had an abortion for a reason I would condone, or they might not have. I can disagree with people without hating them. If they ask my opinion, absolutely I'll give it to them but it doesn't mean I hate the person and wish to avoid them. You can't help people with hatred after all.