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The right to choose

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missyann · 56-60
@Ryderbike I know exactly what it means. Freedom or liberty is a natural right ( our BIRTHRIGHT ) If necessary we should die to protect this God gifted right. These are Gods gift to the human race.

You and I obviously disagree.on the meaning of slavery. It is truly sad that you would equate a law that prevents a woman from having her unborn child ripped apart with one of the darkest tragedies in american history where a race of people were bought, sold, beaten and tortured by white men. To even suggest that these 2 things could remotely mean the same thing is pathetic.

Anytime I make a comment or ask you something, you can't just simply answer. You have to compare it or give one of your crazy questions. Like when I asked about US and films you have to say the sandy hook incident. It was a simple question having to do with abortion not gun rights. By the way I have no problem looking at photos of sandy hook victims. It is sickening and sad and that man deserves death. I don't feel any responsibility for what happened. I didn't provide him with a gun. He didn't steal that gun from me. We ARE talking about abortion right now. Gun rights are a completely separate subject

I have said.over and over that I don't expect you to agree with me or change your stance but as an adult it is immoral of me to go back and forth with someone who has an obvious mental disability that prevents him from answering simple questions and having a rational civilized debate.

I want to have debates with people so that I might learn something new that I haven't thought of. I suggest that you avoid my questions and comments and interact with people that agree with you.

Good luck
@missyann you don’t know what it means. You already stated life over freedom.

You twist yourself in knots with your contradictions
@missyann you support obstruction of gun legislation so yes you are responsible for the killing of sandy hook kids.
missyann · 56-60
@Ryderbike you are the one twisted.in knots by what I say. You have a cob sideways because I refuse to agree with you. Without life there is no freedom. Freedom develops
@missyann

Real simple..my opinion is just for me. I let others decide for themselves.

Your opinion is to force everyone to do what you want.

See the difference.

Which one of us is authoritarian?
@missyann and by the way you keep bringing up God..

What does the bible say about abortion?
@missyann so you’re ok with women saying I would sooner die than lose my freedom.

And you would gladly oblige her . What a pro lifer you are
missyann · 56-60
@Ryderbike I know that you are saying that women should have the freedom to have an abortion which does intentionally stop the development (kills) of a.life from conception to birth. No one else in this country has this right. We would go prison if we intentionally stop the development of a life from birth to the tomb. But she is losing her FREEDOM..

I have the freedom to choose to go rock climbing and I know the risks that come with this activity. I get hurt, I don't have the right to blow up the mountain or kill the park ranger. Anyone who has sex knows that it's main purpose is to produce a baby, they can use protection to avoid pregnancy but it is always a possibility and a risk

If you are saying that women will actually want to die for this . I'm not sure who is trying to kill them..I really don't think that if they lay down in the road in front of the supreme court or the white house, that a tank will run over them. But they do have the FREEDOM to do this. When I go to DC, which is several times a yr, I have the FREEDOM to take another route to avoid seeing these women. I certainly don't want to kill then. I don't know anyone who does.
@missyann where’s the funerals for miscarriages ?you claim they are equal to born children?
@missyann you have the freedom to go rock climbing. If you have an accident do I have the right to deny you medical treatment? should I let you die because I am against rock climbing .
missyann · 56-60
@Ryderbike If a woman's pregnancy is killing her she will be in a hospital. Even pro life Dr's will preform the needed procedure to save her life. If the fetus is at a viable stage 21 + wks, everything should be done to save that life also. But the mothers life comes first.

Women who want an abortion aren't dying or they would be in a hospital. Same goes for me, if I'm dying from injuries rock climbing I'm going to be in a hospital. It doesn't matter if you personally like rock climbing or not. You intentionally let me die you go to prison
@missyann again I’m denying you medical treatment because I don’t approve of your lifestyle and your CHOICE to rock climb,

Suffer the consequences .
@missyann how come the bible demands the death penalty for killing a human but not for killing a fetus?

Any idea ?
missyann · 56-60
@Ryderbike A fetus is a human life. The 5th commandment Thou shall not kill. Which forbids the intentional killing of an innocent human being. I'm pretty sure that you will bring up the death penalty. The bible does call for governments and laws of the land. The court and a jury has convicted a person of a crime so therefore isn't innocent.
missyann · 56-60
@Ryderbike You DO have the right. I suppose if rock climbing is illegal I will need to go to a " back ally " Dr to treat my injuries
missyann · 56-60
@Ryderbike Can you be " logical " in just one post ? Why you believe what you believe. Like why being pro life means authoritarian ? Or what you mean by forced birthing ? Instead of insulting everyone explain why you think that you are right.

You may not like or agree with my explanation but I do explain my reasoning
@missyann my answer is Freedom,

There is no more fundamental freedom than dominion over your own body. No other freedom comes close.


It’s not complicated to me at all.

If a woman chooses abortion and it’s morally wrong then that would be between her and her God.