Can Bernie still win?

I don't feel bad for him, I feel bad for the rest of us. Do you vote for the person you want to be the happiest?

@KaliKali: Of course not. But the old coot never had a chance and he knew it. This was his swan song.

He would have won the Democrat nomination if the DNC wasn't bought. Saying that he "never had a chance" is really bizarre.

@KaliKali: Not really. With the super delegates the DNC is free to pick their candidates. The DNC does it all the time. They just got caught this time.

Now the DNC was well aware that Clinton would fare better in the general election so they would torpedo Bernie's campaign. They had their intereal polling.

Bernie also knew that obscure senators don't stand much of a cHance against the Clintons with there ability to raise money.

Don't forget much of what happens in politics is theater. While this is a cynical view the leaked material bears this out.

[quote]Not really. With the super delegates the DNC is free to pick their candidates. The DNC does it all the time. They just got caught this time.
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You seem to be agreeing with me.

[quote]Now the DNC was well aware that Clinton would fare better in the general election so they would torpedo Bernie's campaign. They had their intereal polling.
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Still seem to be agreeing.

[quote]Bernie also knew that obscure senators don't stand much of a cHance against the Clintons with there ability to raise money.[/quote]

Definitely agreeing.

@KaliKali: OK if your point is that he would have won if the nomination was not fixed then I think he had a great chance.

@KaliKali: I also think Bernie knew what he was up against

@KaliKali: Remember in the US, 1/3 are on the Left and 1/3 are on the Right. General elections are won by the candidate that wins the 1/3 in the middle.

Candidates move to the extremes of their party in order to win their party's nomination. Doing so gives them the widest appeal within their party.

But to win the general election, the candidates have to moderate their messages to make an appeal to the 1/3 in the middle. The only exception to this rule of thumb was Obama. But this is the normal course of action.

Sanders may have won the nomination if the process wasn't fixed by the DNC, but he would have lost the general election by a wide margin.

Don't forget, the DNC and RNC have internal polls. They showed a much different story than the widely circulated polls in the press.

I'm sure fans of Sanders would have liked to see him win the nomination and at least have a chance in the general election. One never knows what will happen, certainly.

But the internal polling by both parties told the tale and the outcome of the general election fell as predicted by the internal polls.

@HoraceGreenley: You don't think Obama is in the middle? xD

Hillary lost because no one likes her. She didn't excite the base so no one voted.

@KaliKali: No, I don't think Obama is in the middle. 😉

Yes, Hillary is not a likable candidate. And she could not mobilize the base.

I was obviously making a distinction between getting the nomination and the general election.