Does This Sound Like the World We Are Living In Today?

@DeWayfarer Thank you for your response. What's unusual and interesting about our time is that terrible conditions are out of control and especially crime has INCREASED tenfold or more and is on an unprecedented high scale. When I was growing up I/people never experienced crime to such a degree as we see today where you are no longer safe even in your own home.

It's at the point where you may never return home because of an active shooter shooting up/at people at the grocery stores and other places. Heaven forbid we as individuals are in that person's crosshairs. Are you young enough to remember when people could leave their windows and doors left unlocked for long periods of time? We rarely heard of road rage, BnEs, families violently turning on one another and the like.

@seotelkniwt you really need to read some history. Then once you have read it attempt to place yourself in those situations.

Experience is good. We often learn from it. Yet it's not the only way to understand different situations.

Both my parents were in the middle of WWII. Try to consider what that was like given what was possible at the time.

Think of the prison camps. Think of the guards stealing from the prisoners or worse the very civilians.

Think of the people starving and not just people either yet little children. Now maximize that thought! Ugly is not the word. Evil is not the word. There really is no comparison.

Now go back in history far far further. Say Sadom and Gomorrah. Think about what ugly things had happened then.

That's based on your own bible BTW! Yet history does say that those two cities did exist.

@seotelkniwt you know more about crime now because the internet opens it up to more people

@DeWayfarer Yep I understand where you're coming from. I'm thinking of the words regularity and, constantcy. The situations you have mentioned many have come to an end and they were just located in certain areas on the earth. Now terrible conditions are everywhere nonstop. Keep in mind the words "increased and increasing". Things don't seem to getting any better. Everyone which includes rich folks is being affected by world conditions unfolding in a negative way.

Sodom and Gomorrah is a good example. And now the world is worse than Sodom and Gomorrah which BTW didn't have God's approval.

@LandOfOz that's true. But they had sophisticated telecommunication systems back in my day too. And it was used to see and realize what was locally and internationally going on in and around the world.

@seotelkniwt and the flood didn't effect the whole world any more than climate change is happening right now. 🤷🏻‍♂️

This "scripture" type of thinking is designed to limit your thoughts. And why the church throughout history really didn't want people to read in the first place.

It wasn't all that long ago either. Only when the printing press was invented did anything change.

Yes, the bible was design with the future in mind yet not in any way you are willing to accept. The bible was designed to control those who read it. And the more you read it the less you actually think about anything else... like history! 😞

@DeWayfarer Archeological findings and historical findings back up and cosign the Bible nicely. The Bible is even compatible with scientific established facts when it comes to the natural world. So history plays a large part in the Bible especially in the Bible book of Daniel.

@seotelkniwt i never read about dinosaurs in the bible

@seotelkniwt it really doesn't, date's are all wrong. Yet that's beside the point.
Read the dates about the sumerians or later the Assyrians around the time of babel. Just doesn't match up with those records nor hundreds of other records not even carbon dating.

Yet you have just attempted to get around my point by ignoring it.

@LandOfOz it's in an odd way in there. Yet I wouldn't support that insane theory.

@LandOfOz the Bible doesn't specifically mention dinosaurs. Here's what I found:

When did God create dinosaurs, and when did they become extinct?—U.S.A.

The Bible does not provide specific answers to this question. According to the Genesis account, animals were created during the fifth and sixth creative periods or ‘days.’ If the Hebrew expression translated “great sea monsters” [Hebrew, tan·ni·nimʹ] includes dinosaurs, which often inhabited swampy, watery areas, this would mean that dinosaurs were created on the fifth “day.” (Gen. 1:21) We do not know whether they continued to exist until man was created (toward the close of the sixth “day”). At the very latest it seems likely that they must have disappeared off the earth at the time of the flood of Noah’s day. Dinosaurs were reptiles, and some kinds of dinosaurs bear strong resemblance structurally and otherwise to lizards (sauros is, in fact, the Greek word for “lizard”; saura in Leviticus 11:29, LXX). Not all types of dinosaurs were of such gigantic size. Hence, even if they had survived till the Flood, this would not have required taking pairs of the mammoth varieties into the ark. Other smaller members of the particular family or “kind” to which these belonged would have sufficed to fulfill the divine command.—Gen. 6:19, 20; 7:14.

Some of the older translations of the Bible at times use the word “dragons” to translate the Hebrew tan·ni·nimʹ (“sea monsters,” NW). (Ps. 74:13; 148:7; Isa. 27:1, Authorized Version) The term “dragon” (Greek, draʹkon) is found in the Christian Greek Scriptures. It has been suggested as possible that, rather than having a purely mythical source, this expression may originally have been applied to enormous creatures such as the dinosaurs, taking on mythical tones only after these mammoth creatures had long disappeared. Interestingly, many of the mythical depictions of the “dragon” strongly resemble certain types within the family of huge reptilian creatures that includes the dinosaur.

@seotelkniwt oh you left out the Nephilim theory! 😅

Wasn't going to say anything about it yet you just opened the flood gates!


Yet the Nephilim were not just limited to humans. Yet for that you need to go into the apocrypha.

@DeWayfarer

The continued discussion is interesting, but your initial reply is inconsistent:


You start by denying the OP's contention, but cite cycles in history, and then admit the contention IS accurate by saying "[t]his has happened before"...implying it IS happening,niw.

@SomeMichGuy oh no. Never said the bible was accurate. Just that you need to go to the apocrypha to back it up. The apocrypha was taken out of the bible at the counsel of Nicaea. Not certain which one, there was two. Yet for at least three hundred and twenty five years, possibly four hundred, it was fully accepted. Especially during the time of Mathew as well as Jesus himself.

The apocrypha takes place between the new testament and the old testament.

I find it very interesting what was there during the new testament yet not objected by any including Jesus, was completely removed by the christian church itself hundreds of years later.

The inaccurates are completely overwhelming and the apocrypha was not the only thing accept and then remove, yet you will have to go to the Jewish Talmud and ask why those records were removed after hundreds of years as well.