So India has almost 60% of its slum dwellers testing positive for covid antibodies.

@Elessar 30k deaths in a nation of BILLIONS. Do some math and save yourself from looking like a complete idiot.

@hippyjoe1955 Italy has 60 millions inhabitants, not billions, and 30k where mostly concentrated in a region of 5-10mln max, moron.

But again, why you need HCQ if the virus doesn't concern you?

@Elessar I am talking about India. I don't care what Italy didn't do to save its people. The people of Italy need to fix that not me. In India there are minimal deaths due to covid. Not zero but very low counts. In their population of billions they could not statistically find any increase in the death rate. Strange how that works. But don't worry Italy killed thousands of people. Aren't you proud of that fact?

@hippyjoe1955 Italy handled it so much better than the U.S. or Brazil, sorry if that makes your ass itch. Data are public, you know.

You're speaking about India only and exclusively because the fact HCQ not working in a country with a high-level healthcare quality and no interest in pushing one drug or the other such as mine goes against your agenda (our PM doesn't have shares in HCQ producing firms, nor reconverted industries to produce HCQ).

Again, I re-iterate, until the other day you said the virus doesn't concern you and that most people are immune, then why are you so butthurt about HCQ being discarded as a treatment after failing multiple RCTs?

@Elessar And yet you are on here whining about the 30,000 dead. You can't have it both ways. Either Italy handled covid well and 30,000 is a good number or Italy screwed up and 30,000 is a terrible number. I hold that Italy screwed up.

Brazil does not have an HCQ program in most of the country and they have a high death rate. Columbia, Guiana, etc do have HCQ protocols and the death rate is low. Malaysia, Vietnam, Thailand, Sub-Sahara Africa, Egypt... all low death rates, all have HCQ protocols.

@hippyjoe1955 If 30k is bad, from the top of your "engineering" degree you should know that 154,442 (US) and 90,383 (Brazil) are respectively more than 5 folds and 3 folds worse.

Italy has an HCQ protocol as well. But aside from that, random controlled trials exist exactly for assessing whether a treatment works or doesn't, and HCQ failed them for covid-19.

Again, why bother about HCQ? Is the virus dangerous also for you now?

@Elessar What is the percentage of deaths. In the US they estimate the actual death rate of covid is about 1/2 of what was recorded since there was huge incentive for the misreporting of disease. However you missed my point entirely. I am not saying the US has handled its covid out break well. Nor do I think Brazil did such a good job of it. However if you go to a neighboring country such as Columbia or Guiana you will see that their death rate is much lower. Why? No one can be certain but in Columbia and Guiana HCQ is over the counter like cough drops. Strange coincidence don't you think. Yet in Italy and the US and Brazil no HCQ because according to their health 'experts' it doesn't work. Well statistics tell me that those experts are not very expert at all and should be fired for incompetence. Maybe even charged with wrongful death or negligent homicide.

@hippyjoe1955 Italy used HCQ, can you even read? What is the average age of people in Italy compared to the average age of people in the U.S. and Brazil? How many are the non-HCQ available treatments when Italy was hit, and how many are them now, when the others haven't even reached the peak in their curve as of yet? The alt-right dumbfucks are the ones causing a genocide, at the screams of "muh freedom" or "muh economy", or now "muh HCQ". Italy and Italians thankfully are dealing with the local outbreak much, much better and responsibly than overseas, our curve is essentially flat since May in comparison. But keep speaking about things you don't understand.

You still haven't responded: why do you care about HCQ? Is the virus dangerous also for you now?