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As a Supreme Court Justice, would you reverse Roe v Wade?

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redredred · M
As grim as it sounds, I have come to terms with the sort of people seeking abortions killing their offspring. As such they can take the freedom Patrick Henry fought for and use it to murder their babies.
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@redredred Coming to terms - does that mean you understand and support their decision to abort the fetus?

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redredred · M
I'm happy there will be fewer of their offspring among us.@SimplyTracie
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@redredred That’s a shame
redredred · M
It is a shame but it's the decision these people make @SimplyTracie
@redredred Just one correction, "murder" refers to the [i]unlawful[/i] taking of human life, so where abortion is legal, it's not "murder." Vegans say "meat is murder," but that doesn't mean you will go to jail for eating a steak. Using the word incorrectly for its emotional effect only weakens your argument.
redredred · M
So the nazis didn't murder six million Jews because German law allowed it? Examine your first principles.@LeopoldBloom
@redredred They were later held liable at the Nuremburg Trials for crimes against humanity. But if you'd have called the cops in Nazi Germany to ask that the local concentration camp guards be arrested for murder, they would have locked you up too.

So if a future vegan government outlaws meat eating, does that mean you're a murderer right now if you eat a steak?
redredred · M
So, if the nazis had won, it wouldn't have been murder? Think this through, you're missing the obvious point that taking a totally innocent human life is ALWAYS murder, irrespective of any man made laws, nazi or otherwise.@LeopoldBloom
@redredred How would it be murder? What court would have charged them if they had won?

Sorry, but words don't mean whatever you want them to mean. It would still have been unjustifiable killing of innocent people regardless of whether it was legal or not or if they had won or not, but not "murder." Otherwise the word only means "killing that redredred disapproves of."

Just curious, when children are killed in warfare, should we prosecute the soldiers for murder when they return home? You said that "taking a totally innocent human life is ALWAYS murder," so surely you wouldn't make an exception just because the kid lived in a country that your country was at war with.

And I'm tired of people saying fetuses are "innocent." No, they're not capable of forming criminal intent, but if they're causing harm to the mother by their presence, she can use deadly force to remove them. It doesn't matter if the harm isn't intentional. Remember when John Hinckley shot Reagan because he thought he was protecting the Jodie Foster character in "Taxi Driver." If the Secret Service had killed him, that would not have resulted in a murder charge just because Hinckley didn't know what he was doing. He was found not guilty by reason of insanity, and after several years in a mental hospital, he was released with no criminal charges filed. And he shot the president.
redredred · M
Yes, the children killed in war are victims of murder. I believe that's as obvious a fact as there is. The fact that the perpetrators aren't prosecuted doesn't change the facts.

The entire legal effect of Roe v Wade is to declare a woman's uterus a free-fire zone where the owner of the uterus can commit murder without penalty and to give her the right to engage an agent for that murder. @LeopoldBloom