Are you afraid of death, or being dead?
Death sounds like it will hurt more, being dead is more boring. You're dead a long, long time.
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xSharp · 31-35, M
of course not, il never know what its like to be dead, because death is the absence of the ability to experience anything.
you could be dead a million years but if you were to wake up it would be like going under before surgery, dreamless sleep.
you could be dead a million years but if you were to wake up it would be like going under before surgery, dreamless sleep.
ColonelFlytrap · 70-79, M
@xSharp how do you know that, though?
xSharp · 31-35, M
@ColonelFlytrap because life is the opposite of death
Serenitree · F
@xSharp I've had surgery four times in my life. Had dreams during each of them. Perhaps they were happening just as I was going under, or coming out of the anesthesia, but there were very vivid dreams.
xSharp · 31-35, M
@Serenitree yes the opposite of life would logically be absent of any way to sense anything.
what were the dreams like?
what were the dreams like?
Serenitree · F
@xSharp My last surgery was 40 years ago. I don't really rememeber the dreams of the earlier ones, but I know that the last one was about my dad, and he was dead, so I thought I was dead and I was happy to see him, but he told me it was too soon to die, so I had to go back.
You believe the opposite of life is the absence of anything. You believe that's logical. Yet, how can you possibly know...for sure. What people thought was logical a thousand years ago, turns out to be wrong. Can you imagine someone from Battle of Hastings, 1066, if someone told them that one day they'd be able to get new orders, on tiny devices held in their hands and voices and pictures would appear on them. Everybody, including small children would have them. The person who made that claim would be mocked as a mad man.
What we believe is not always correct.
Most people believe that death is merely the next stage of our growth. To them it's the only logical thing to explain memories of past lives.
You believe the opposite of life is the absence of anything. You believe that's logical. Yet, how can you possibly know...for sure. What people thought was logical a thousand years ago, turns out to be wrong. Can you imagine someone from Battle of Hastings, 1066, if someone told them that one day they'd be able to get new orders, on tiny devices held in their hands and voices and pictures would appear on them. Everybody, including small children would have them. The person who made that claim would be mocked as a mad man.
What we believe is not always correct.
Most people believe that death is merely the next stage of our growth. To them it's the only logical thing to explain memories of past lives.
xSharp · 31-35, M
@Serenitree dmt may have had something to do with your dreams, shamans who use it describe it as a type of death feeling, it occurs in the brain during sleep and death.
yes i do believe death is the absence of anything, just as the opposite of heads is tails, without having to observe it, but i also believe nothing is forever, which is why i believe in some sort of reincarnation because everything else in nature also goes in a circle, an afterlife would mess up the cycle because it would be a one way trip and not sustainable in the long term, also its another way to explain past lives.
i got into that a bit on the many world theory comment i posted, what if we are transported into another parallel universe more or less the same as this one to live the same life, slightly or greatly different from our current life, forever and ever? or mayeb the past life dreams are real and people really are reborn as other people until reaching nirvana maybe?
yes i do believe death is the absence of anything, just as the opposite of heads is tails, without having to observe it, but i also believe nothing is forever, which is why i believe in some sort of reincarnation because everything else in nature also goes in a circle, an afterlife would mess up the cycle because it would be a one way trip and not sustainable in the long term, also its another way to explain past lives.
i got into that a bit on the many world theory comment i posted, what if we are transported into another parallel universe more or less the same as this one to live the same life, slightly or greatly different from our current life, forever and ever? or mayeb the past life dreams are real and people really are reborn as other people until reaching nirvana maybe?
Serenitree · F
@xSharp yes. I am more inclined to the reincarnation or even the alternate universe. Not at all thinking of heaven or hell. It's just that I believe energy doesn't die.
As for shamans, well, someone that one person calls a witch doctor is someone else's shaman. So I won't go there.
So what you call many world theory, is for some, another stage of life. The next consciousness; so, our death here, isn't the absence of anything....it's simply a life after this one. In other words, an afterlife.
The thing I'm saying is, you could be right. Death could be the absolute absence of anything, the end. Or, one of your alternate theories could be right, or someone else's theory could be right.
I'm just sure of one thing. Nobody knows for sure, and non believers will call the people remembering past or different lives, kooks, or worse. Because if we disbelieve something that is unprovable, we dismiss it, in favour of what we believe, even though it too, is unprovable.
As for shamans, well, someone that one person calls a witch doctor is someone else's shaman. So I won't go there.
So what you call many world theory, is for some, another stage of life. The next consciousness; so, our death here, isn't the absence of anything....it's simply a life after this one. In other words, an afterlife.
The thing I'm saying is, you could be right. Death could be the absolute absence of anything, the end. Or, one of your alternate theories could be right, or someone else's theory could be right.
I'm just sure of one thing. Nobody knows for sure, and non believers will call the people remembering past or different lives, kooks, or worse. Because if we disbelieve something that is unprovable, we dismiss it, in favour of what we believe, even though it too, is unprovable.
xSharp · 31-35, M
@Serenitree yes that is true, energy cannot be created or destroyed only transferred from state to state.
as for dmt, its made in the brain and is released during certain stages of sleep and during death, also found in some plants, it shoots you off to another dimension according to those who tried smoking it. but its released naturally and can give you death like feelings during the dream like trip.
there is that guy with an iq of 200 who theorizes that every afterlife exists just because you believe it does, if he really is the smartest man then maybe hes onto something? :)
[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--Nbz6flw5A]
as for dmt, its made in the brain and is released during certain stages of sleep and during death, also found in some plants, it shoots you off to another dimension according to those who tried smoking it. but its released naturally and can give you death like feelings during the dream like trip.
there is that guy with an iq of 200 who theorizes that every afterlife exists just because you believe it does, if he really is the smartest man then maybe hes onto something? :)
[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--Nbz6flw5A]