@Fernie If no-one ate pigs, no-one would keep pigs. There would be a few in zoos but the rest would die out. The same goes for chickens. If no-one was eating their eggs or flesh, why would anyone cover the cost of keeping them?
@NakedExperiment just for interest sake, here is an interesting thought. According to a national geographic study, we have lost 52% of the wildlife on Earth since 1970. Soon the Earth is going to be covered in Humans and livestock.
@Wraithorn That's why we need to control the global population. I don't know the optimum figure but it seems safe to suggest that 7.5 billion is too many.
@NakedExperiment I agree but we need to control it through education and co-operation and not by killing each other. We've been killing each other for ages yet this is still happening.
@Wraithorn Good luck with that. Cooperation is going to take WAY too long, especially with some religions preaching the old "go forth and multiply" and that birth control is bad.
If we wait for the world to learn to cooperate, we're going to fail.
@NakedExperiment It is indeed a complicated problem and not easy to solve. I generally do not like religion or culture because it is mostly limiting, divisive and elitist. That is part of our problem.
Wiping out other cultures involves genocide though. That is a very unpleasant thought. I live in South Africa so are you proposing to wipe me out because my culture is different than yours ? Whose culture do we choose as the elite one ?
@Wraithorn Hang on, I'm not proposing wiping out you or your culture. However, I cannot see any way of getting some cultures to reduce their populations except under duress and that will unfortunately necessitate the use of force in some form. As much as I hate the idea, logically I can't get away from it. Intellectual discussion isn't going to make any difference in a workable timeframe.
@NakedExperiment Fair enough. There is no easy or quick solution. Something has to change in a big way. It might be nature herself that forces the changes. We'll see.
@Wraithorn I suppose you could view it that if we don't do something. Nature (or the laws of physics) will. Far too much demand and too little supply will result in deaths, potentially on a colossal scale. Nature doesn't care. Life will go on, with or without us.
