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@MarthannBann888 says [quote]Only the truly ignorant have no idea that the cheating took place in carefully chosen polling sites.[/quote]

[b]LOL!!! [/b] So many errors, so little time!!

Lets begin with your biggest error. No, it wasn't ignoring Arizona, and it wasn't pretending Georgia hadn't done thorough hand recounts and signature audits. No, your biggest error is the one that proves you didn't study a STEM field. Your biggest error, well known to science students, is that you made your hypothesis AFTER the measurements were conducted!!

You claimed there were four close states, so cheating only needed to happen in those four. BUT! Those four were only known to be close AFTER the election. Making your hypothesis about critical precincts AFTER the election is known in science as a "Type 1 Error." Look, PRIOR to the election, a cheater would need near perfect knowledge of the outcome to know where to cheat. Since that near perfect knowledge didn't exist, any cheating attempt with a high probability of success would need to cheat in many more places.
[quote] in amounts certain to ensure success in those critical precincts, [/quote]
Nope. You can't be sure of critical precincts prior to the election. An after-the-fact hypothesis is a subtle error that trips up many science students in the early years. A cheater can't know where to do precision targeted cheating until AFTER the votes are tallied, and by then it's too late. And THAT error is the biggest hole in your argument.

[quote] Some of these self same precincts insisted on new voting machines manufactured in the most brutal communist country in the western hemisphere where its people are searching for food having eaten their pets and zoo animals. [/quote]
Why so coy? Why are you afraid to name the machines and the nation? Is it because it'll be easy to debunk your claim if you make it explicit?? Look, vote counting machines are super easy to check. Hand count the ballots and run them thru the machine and compare counts. Georgia did that in 159 different counties; see below. The 'Cyber Ninjas' did all kinds of audits in AZ and found only a clean election and some extra votes for Biden. Mich & Penn also audited their machines; links are below.

[quote] Curiously, though it was later reported from various wire services that Speaker Pelosi and Attorney General Barr possessed stock in the company. [/quote]
Again, you can't name the company because then your claim would be easy to debunk. Your claim is dependent on once-upon-a-time fairy tale levels of vagueness, LOL!!!

The next biggest hole in your argument involves down-ballot races; that's where the cognitive dissonance comes in. If someone is cheating ballots, are they really gonna forget to cheat for House of Representatives??
In Arizona, democratic House candidates got 33,000 fewer votes than the democratic presidential candidate. In Georgia, the differential was 81,000 fewer. Mich: 115,000 fewer, Penn, 113,000 fewer; Wisc 43,000 fewer. Do you really think these wily perfect cheaters are gonna forget the downballot races? LOL!!!

Sorry, the only logical explanation for the downballot underperformance by House democrats is that republican voters went against Trump in the presidential election, but for the downballot republicans. And that's exactly what the polling said about suburban housewives voting against Trump.

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Now let's go state by state:

[quote] There were four states involved whose win margins were very close. Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Georgia. [/quote] [b]Wrong wrong wrong!![/b]
The closest margin, 10,457 was Arizona. But I bet you left AZ out of your list because the very thorough $6 million 'Ninja' recount eliminated all possibility of cheating. Either that or you have no idea what you're talking about. Next closest, 12,670, was Georgia. Georgia checked signatures on absentee ballots, and both hand counted and machine counted every single vote in every county. See [b]https://www.ajc.com/politics/no-fraud-georgia-audit-confirms-authenticity-of-absentee-ballots/QF2PTOGHLNDLNDJEWBU56WEQHM/[/b] and [b]https://www.wrcbtv.com/story/42925055/no-sign-of-foul-play-found-in-audit-of-georgias-voting-machines[/b] The Georgia hand count of 4.9 million votes DESTROYS the narrative that crooked voting machines were involved. In most of GA's 159 counties, the hand count matched or differed from the machine count by less than 10. Yet cons still pretend crooked machines are a valid complaint; are they too dumb to follow the logic?

Then comes Wisc, with a 20,682 vote margin; which than is more than 0.5%. Trump's rich supporters paid $2 million for a recount of the two most democratic counties in Wisc, and found ZERO evidence of fraud, but netted Biden 87 more votes, LOL!!! [b]https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/completed-wisconsin-recount-confirms-bidens-win-over-trump[/b]

Michigan?? Biden won Michigan by 154,188 votes! [b]https://www.michigan.gov/som/0,4669,7-192-47796-553386--,00.html[/b] Here's an example, from one of Trump's many lawsuits, of a court evaluating 'evidence' that fails to meet the standards: [quote] “‘I heard someone else say something,’” Michigan Judge Cynthia Stephens said on Thursday, summing up Connarn’s affidavit. “Tell me how that is not hearsay. Come on now!” ... “The assertion that Connarn was informed by an unknown individual what ‘other hired poll workers at her table’ had been told is inadmissible hearsay within hearsay, and plaintiffs have provided no hearsay exception for either level of hearsay that would warrant consideration of the evidence.” [/quote]

Biden also won Penn by 81,660 votes, and the audits came up clean: [b]https://www.inquirer.com/news/pennsylvania/spl/pa-election-results-risk-limiting-audit-results-limitations-20210310.html[/b]
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SevIsPamprinYouAlways · 56-60, F
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RedBaron · M
@MarthannBann888 “You are so masterfully arrogant and stupid,” says the woman masterfully arrogant and stupid enough to support Trump and start this sh*tshow of a thread, plus too cowardly and unpatriotic to put on the uniform and stand up in defense of her country.

What an imbecilic hypocrite.
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SevIsPamprinYouAlways · 56-60, F
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@MarthannBann888 [quote]Do you really think that investigators should a hypothesis before they investigate a crime?[/quote] AS they investigate a crime, forming and testing hypotheses is EXACTLY what police investigators do.
See [i]Structured Hypothesis Development in Criminal Investigation: A method aimed at providing a broad and objective starting point for a criminal investigation[/i]
[b]https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0032258X20982328[/b]

[quote] I have had five graduate level courses in stats. [/quote] Then you won't have any trouble telling us three properties of the eigenvectors of a covariance matrix. Unless you're bluffing.
MarthannBann888 · 70-79, F
@ElwoodBlues I would like you to give me a example of how YOU would use in research project.
In my dissertation i used multiple regression to demonstrate the relationship between depression and the experience of parental divorce in childhood as it related to gender, age at the time parental, and socio economic status. How would you use eigenvectors in a research project. Frankly, looking at the concept, that was not one that was taught in the programs teaching research that were offered.
I think you just be the bluffer.
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@MarthannBann888 It's time to accept that @ElwoodBlues has comprehensively defeated you. Stop deflecting, and accept that every single one of your points has been debunked.

Move on. Accept that Trump lost, and learn to cope.
RedBaron · M
@SW-User Don’t get your hopes up. She’s obviously too thick.
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@RedBaron It's just the typical right wing trope of once you have been shown, conclusively, to be wrong, you simply insult and/or deflect rather than accept it.
MarthannBann888 · 70-79, F
@RedBaron Red, you are the only person I have ever heard make such a statement! If I had been a man i would certainly have served. So I have read and studied all of my life both sides of our politics for the purpose of making informed choices. I raised my child to become a good citizen, sent to private school so as not to burden the public system with his education. How can you say such a thing to a woman? I have to say you guys are astoundingly uninformed on these issues.

One thing fox is certainly right about when, they report on the amount of time devoted to these important issues, is that the liberal channels do not give important news to the public if that news favors conservatives. Thirty five thousand hours of my working life have been taken up by the government in the form of taxes. So I truly have contributed to my country in the best way available to me at the time.

For you to try to shame me over my gender is as low as I expected a liberal to be. How stupid for you to do that. Surely you know that the only work available to women in the armed services when I was young was nursing. If all women had become nurses when I was young, there would have would a lot of wasted time and effort.
MarthannBann888 · 70-79, F
@SW-User
Talk about projection!! That is what you people do so well well! Read some of the posts you guys put up.You are the nasty ones without a doubt.
RedBaron · M
@MarthannBann888 What a load of crap. Women have equal opportunity to serve in today’s armed forces.
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@MarthannBann888 Again with the deflection and the insult. You have proven my point exactly.
@MarthannBann888 [quote] i used multiple regression to demonstrate the relationship between[/quote] Ah, so you were a social scientist and a USER of statistical tools. When you said [quote]I have had five graduate level courses in stats[/quote] I took that to mean actual graduate course IN stats, not incidentally USING stats.

Covariance matrices underpin most of that stats people use today (Baysian is a big exception). Eigenvectors & eigenvalues are widely used in multivariate analysis and factor analysis. In social science you might have used SPSS and they might have referred to eigenvectors as principle components. Again, I took your "5 grad levels courses in stats" to mean understanding how the "optimal" estimators in statistical tools work and what the underlying assumptions are.

I believe you when you say you studied social science, but I find it weird that you:
(1) never supply sources to back your claims;
(2) throw insults instead of providing data;
(3) buy into all these rabbit hole conspiracy theories that are based on insinuation & fear and are almost completely lacking in hard data.

[quote]How would you use eigenvectors in a research project.[/quote]
Linear regression & multiple regression for starters. They also have interesting uses in lossy compression, although that community tends to call them the "Karhunen-Loeve transform."

Oh, and eigenvectors (specifically dot products in an eigenvector basis space) have also been applied to measuring the similarity of blocks of text, although that community tends to call their use "latent semantic indexing."
SevIsPamprinYouAlways · 56-60, F
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SevIsPamprinYouAlways · 56-60, F
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@MarthannBann888 The Supreme Court just tossed out the independent state legislature theory, so there goes Cheeto Benito’s hope that Republican legislatures will award him the presidency when he loses again next year.
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MarthannBann888 · 70-79, F
@ElwoodBlues
I have taken a microscope to your post and still do not find references to your claims.
What I do see is a complete and disregard for people and human life. I see a complete and total "I am better than you" mentality. You will make a great tyrant, slave owner, dictator, and closed minded snake handling preacher. It is your way or the highway. You are a true totalitarian. A complete and total king with no regard what so ever of another person's desire to live their life in the way they would like. You have no respect for the ideas of others.
The compassionate, educated half of this country see something you have missed, and you have no curiosity about what that might be.
God help me if I ever become like you.
MarthannBann888 · 70-79, F
@RedBaron

Today's army.
@MarthannBann888 My references?
Here's a hint: they all begin with [b]https://[/b]
Hope that helps.

[quote]It is your way or the highway.[/quote]
I was taught to stand up for the truth. I'm sorry if that upsets you. BTW, what is the compromise position between the truth and a falsehood? A partial falsehood?? A half truth??? Are those worth standing up for????

[quote]The compassionate, educated half of this country [/quote]
... held their noses and voted for Biden, like I did. The "f@*k your feelings" crowd proudly backed Trump.
MarthannBann888 · 70-79, F
@ElwoodBlues

Bottom line El. I am not going to read your version of War and Peace.