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So many people have written, I don't have time to answer everybody and still earn a living. So here is the essence of what the FBI story means and concerns us.

The FBI terribly broke the law. It was illegal to start the Trump without credible evidence.
The FBI is our most important law important law enforcement agency.
If the FBI starts breaking the law, then no one can abide by the law and be mostly confident that they will be free of persecution at the same time, unless there is a specific reason they are legally implicated in the case.
Surely many of you see how dangerous it is for the government to be able bring fake charges against law abiding citizens for political reasons.
While we pretty well know the FBI may have done this in the past, it is important to do everything we can to ensure everyone is equal under the law.
It is a protection for everybody that law enforcement agencies function purely on the basis of the evidence, and that we keep them honest when we find out they are not being honest.
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The FBI didn't break the law. There was evidence of wrongdoing, and they investigated it. We still don't know the reason behind the over 100 meetings between Trump or his campaign officials and various Russians, or why those officials lied about those meetings.

If you think the FBI broke the law by investigating your orange savior, then every time a police department investigates someone and charges aren't filed, they broke the law, too. The only reason you're mad at the FBI is because they committed the unpardonable sin of raiding Mar-a-Lago to retrieve classified documents Trump stole, showed to unauthorized people, and lied about having. If you support everyone being equal under the law, that includes your orange savior.
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MarthannBann888 · 70-79, F
@MarthannBann888
The FBI whistle blowers say just the opposite.

Your side is lying.
@MarthannBann888 You have no evidence that anyone is lying outside of the tinfoil-hat conspiracy theory sources you follow.

If Biden broke the law, then prosecute him, too.
MarthannBann888 · 70-79, F
@LeopoldBloom
You don't have enough information to discuss this.
@MarthannBann888 So list the laws Biden or the FBI broke. It's not illegal for a law enforcement agency to not investigate something. Besides, Hillary had been under investigation going back decades, with no evidence found of any crimes, so maybe the FBI was tired of wasting more money on her and wanted to look elsewhere. I happen to work in law enforcement, and there is always a question of resource allocation, because every single thing can't be investigated over and over.

The FBI whistleblower says the Bidens accepted $5 million from Burisma. Last time I checked, it's not illegal to be paid. We already knew Hunter Biden was working for them. The question is, what was this payment for, and was that illegal?

Durham's report also failed to answer why the Trump campaign met with the Russians so many times, what was discussed at those meetings, and why they lied about them.
MarthannBann888 · 70-79, F
@LeopoldBloom
It's called probable cause. A law enforcement entity must have probable cause to investigate. Without probable cause the law enforcement entity is committing depravation of rights under cover of the law. Just like everybody complained when young black men were stopped and questioned. Anyway, HRC gave Fusion 2 or 3 million, which Fusion gave to Christopher Steele. Steele wrote the dossier and got paid. Steele gave the dossier to the FBI. The FBI leaked it to the Post and Times who published parts of the leak. Then the FBI went to the FISA court with the newspaper articles which and said the articles substantiated their claim that Trump was colluding. Only the FBI nd HRC colluded. The meeting you speak of were as made up as the dossier, which Steele testified later in the summer to a British court that he had no idea if anything in the dossier was true.

Depravation of rights under cover of the law.

About the Hunter charge. It was Joe, himself, in a speech to the foreign relations counsel that bragged he kept a billion away from the Ukraine one day until the president of the Ukraine fired the attorney general of that country who had started an investigation.

Joe turned himself in. I bet you haven't seen the tape of the speech.

Again, you really don't have the information to discuss this.
@MarthannBann888 So if there is probable cause, then charge them. Unlike the way you worship Trump, I don't worship Biden.

There is ample evidence that Trump took top secret documents he wasn't entitled to, and that he concealed them from his own attorneys as well as from federal investigators. So by your own standards, he should be put on trial.

Biden didn't withhold aid from Ukraine for his own personal benefit. He was acting under the authority of the G7. You clearly only get your information from sources like OANN that are not telling you the entire story. And if that was a crime, why didn't Bill Barr file charges? It's not like this was unknown.

When did Joe Biden "turn himself in?" Who did he turn himself in to? If a tape of this exists, please post a link.
MarthannBann888 · 70-79, F
@LeopoldBloom

Worship! And, you KNOW that. You just know all about me. I am thinking you know everything. That the FBI is not being charged, that the bidumbs are not being charged, that HRC was not charged is what has everyone upset. You have been suckered into thinking "we worship Trump and that is why conservatives are upset about the these charges. Consider what this.
1. Why would dems be so concerned about Trump's sex life, after all, isn't their heritage the so called free love movement?
2. Why are dems acting like the Russians are our enemies when all of my life they have criticized conservatives for disapproving their mass murder? And now, dems act like conservatives are the worst and conservatives still don't like the Russians, despite what the dems say.
3. Dems call for fair elections and make it very easy for groups to cheat. Mail in ballots are considered the single greatest challenge to fair elections of all of the other schemes. There would be no reason for someone to support mail in ballots if they supported fair elections.
4. Why do dems support climate change schemes that are so expensive no one can afford them, and then they get mad when people can't afford these new cars and stuff.
5. People who support climate change do not conserve resources at all.
6. And, all these stuff about how smelly we are, and all of the hate speech and demeaning things said. I know you are going to say conservatives say the same things and I am certainly going to say much more in the future. The point is, talk about issues and not how I smell.
I could go on and on.
@MarthannBann888

So are you admitting that the unauthorized removal and hiding of documents is a crime? Fine, if Hillary and Biden did that, then charge them, too. But it's not a defense to say "don't charge Trump because you're not charging those other people." If he committed a crime, he should be charged for it. Or are you saying it should be legal to steal top secret documents? Fine, then tell Congress to change the law.

1. "Free love" doesn't include rape, pervert.
2. Why are Republicans suddenly in love with Russia? Ronald Reagan must be spinning in his grave.
3. There is no cheating in elections, except Republicans preventing people from voting or trying to change the vote afterwards.
4. Please provide statistics showing that people can't afford new cars because of "climate change."
5. Lots of people are hypocrites. Don't get me started on all the anti-gay "Christian" pastors who are having more gay sex than most gay prostitutes have.
6. I've never referred to your body odor since I've never met you in person. If other people are telling you that you smell bad, take a shower.
@MarthannBann888 The FBI had probable cause based on the security recordings they supboenaed from Mar-a-Lago. A Trump appointed judge approved the FBI's search warrant.