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My wife put trust in somebody to give his "associates" money via PayPal pay for his "broken phone"

Barnoshabs · 51-55, M
CestManan · 46-50, F
It is well known that scammers exist. Why do people KEEP falling for it?

I mean it is one thing if someone's bank details are compromised without them knowing and they get ripped off. Or maybe in cases of extortion.

But some people just hand over the details or the money, just putting it in the crook's hands.

Then of course they want to claim they were ripped off. What do they tell the police or the bank?
"Uhh, I fell for some online scammer and gave him a bunch of money, can I get it back?"
This makes me hate people
Barnoshabs · 51-55, M
@pripyatamusementpark thanks for the support! My wife has such a huge heart to help anybody in need and we spoke about the USD $500 this POS needed to fix his phone but unfortunately...things escalated the last few weeks and she just let me know she has now given this POS just under $20K to people he claimed were his associates needing cash to help him out!
Barnoshabs · 51-55, M
this POS convinced her to send money to his "associates" via PayPal to "friends & family" so we could not dispute with PayPal and she does not use PayPal and did not know!
Starcrossed · 41-45, F
@Barnoshabs she did not know what...? That's an awful lot of money to just "not know" you're giving to other people.
Barnoshabs · 51-55, M
@Starcrossed she actually was instructed to give small amounts to multiple random people she did not know by the scammer, e.g. $1500 here and $2500 here and $5000 here...the ultimate goal according to the scammer was give 10% of $70K and he will give her $70K and she can then keep $20K...she was just trying to help him and said I only want the money back I gave you and not any more.
Starcrossed · 41-45, F
@Barnoshabs she wanted her money back so she gave more?
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Barnoshabs · 51-55, M
@jshm2 I've never heard that term before but yes looks like she got spearfished!
Jessmari · 41-45
and she thought what the hell, 20k should cover that?
Barnoshabs · 51-55, M
@Jessmari he first asked for USD $500 which she gave him via PalPal transfer and told me a few days later. His name is Mario Zelaya and he is an anti Trudeau government TikTok guy but I suspect the scammer is using his identity. She told me about the $500 and I was pissed asking her why she would give a complete stranger money! She said now the guy asked her to transfer smaller amounts to his associates which he would pay back and then he said I'll need to transfer $70K first to your account and pull out $40K and you can keep $30K and that's when she told me the entire story which I'm still not understanding how she could fall for this! the guy is still asking her for $1500 which he says once transferred he'll put the $70K in! I told her hell no not to do that as he'll reject the transfer and she'll be on the hook to pay back the $70K!
For 25k? Thats a bit expensive eh?
Barnoshabs · 51-55, M
@SStarfish Yes and everything sent to friends & family on PayPal!
@Barnoshabs i see.. well there's a lot of professional scammers out there
Barnoshabs · 51-55, M
@SStarfish yes and my friends are now asking me if maybe she had something romantic going on???
Bleak · 36-40, F
Why didn’t your wife discuss it with you before taking this step??
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