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Johnson212 · 61-69, M
Tulsa shooting was a patient not getting pain medicine strong enough to control back pain after back surgery. Said he was shooting the doctor who would not help him get relief and anyone who got in the way. You are not stopping that since he intended to kill himself after the doctor. Take the gun and he will just find another way.
@Johnson212
You are not stopping that since he intended to kill himself after the doctor. Take the gun and he will just find another way.
You may be right, but it sure seems like a gun made it easier.
You are not stopping that since he intended to kill himself after the doctor. Take the gun and he will just find another way.
You may be right, but it sure seems like a gun made it easier.
RedBaron · M
@Johnson212 So it was justified or somehow doesn't count? Newsflash: Shooters in these situations always either kill themselves or are blown away by authorities.
Johnson212 · 61-69, M
@MistyCee maybe so but what if he did not have one and took a 5 gal gas can and some matches instead. Point is not so much about guns as if you treat someone so bad denying them pain medicine that they think death is better that is a very bad idea.
@Johnson212 Are you saying the Doc had it coming?
I get the desire to look at underlying motives, because, let's face it, guns don't kill, people do, but easy access to guns makes it easier for people to kill.
Honestly, maybe this orthopedic surgeon is a butcher, who caused pain instead of trying to alleviate it, and maybe he's been pressured by deep state liberal pressure not to prescribe pain killers sufficient to stop mass murders, but are you seriously saying that the gun wasn't a contributing factor to the loss of life?
I get the desire to look at underlying motives, because, let's face it, guns don't kill, people do, but easy access to guns makes it easier for people to kill.
Honestly, maybe this orthopedic surgeon is a butcher, who caused pain instead of trying to alleviate it, and maybe he's been pressured by deep state liberal pressure not to prescribe pain killers sufficient to stop mass murders, but are you seriously saying that the gun wasn't a contributing factor to the loss of life?
Johnson212 · 61-69, M
@MistyCee I did not say the doc had it coming and if he did the ones who were in the way certainly did not. What I will say is that I am familiar with unrelenting back pain where you can't find a position where it does not hurt and the pain is such you can't sleep, it is intolerable, it is enough to drive you mad if you can't do something about it. So I understand the rage. I have not had it in a while, when I did I would take muscle relaxers and strong opioid pain killers along with some physical therapy to rid myself of it. I don't know how long I could take it if there was no way to escape that pain or what I would do if I could not. I don't think I would go kill a bunch of innocent people, maybe myself after running out of options. Of course we don't really know if the patient was in that kind of pain or not but if he was there is for him no difference in being physically tortured by a sadist and being denied proper pain medication, the resulting pain is the same. If he way then yes the doc had it coming. If it is not too much to expect a bunch of underpaid police to run into a room facing rifle fire to save some kids then it is not too much to expect an overpaid doctor to stand up for their patients in pain.