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Points to ponder !

1rest of the countrys dont allow easy acess to weapons as In usa?
2 rest of the country's don't face mass shootings as USA they sure have their share of crazy$.?
3 Does just carrying a weapon ensure more freedom?
4 when does the next incident take place ...?
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Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
The US comes in at #11 on firearm deaths during mass shootings per capita. Norway came in at a higher number than the US, that surprised me.

But even in countries with very strict gun laws, like France, criminals were able to either bring in or find fully automatic rifles and explosives and kill almost 150 people.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Roadsterrider Norway's data is skewed by a single mass killing event about ten years ago where 67 kids were killed by a domestic terrorist. When you have so few, one large number will skew the average.

The US stands alone in having the most mass killings due to easy access to guns. They are unusual in Norway and most other countries. In the US, they are so commonplace that many gun nuts accept them as just the cost of being heavily armed.
Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
@windinhishair Is the data skewed in the other 9 countries that are higher than the US? Data is data. The article I was reading only dealt with data from 2015 to 2020. Either way, the US isn't the highest on the list.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Roadsterrider It is ten countries higher than the US, not nine if the US in number 11. Data is data, but context is important. You ignored the context, but not to worry. I provided the proper context in my response.
SW-User
@Roadsterrider
But even in countries with very strict gun laws, like France, criminals were able to either bring in or find fully automatic rifles and explosives and kill almost 150 people.
That may be so, but 150 deaths pales in comparison to the more than 17,000 deaths by gun violence in the US this year alone. Also, I might add, my country has strict gun laws as well, which is why there have been only four gun deaths this year.
Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
@windinhishair You disregarded Norway as skewed data, that leaves 9. Even though the time period for the data excluded the incident you mentioned.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Roadsterrider The data I found shows the US at number 11 for the period 2009-2015, which includes the Breivik massacre in 2011.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/mass-shootings-by-country

Do you have another source that shows the same thing over a shorter or more recent time period? If so, please provide it.

Regardless of the time period involved, all ten of the countries listed ahead of the US have far, far fewer mass killings than the US.
Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
@SW-User Most of the homicides involving a firearm and committed by criminals shooting at one another. Those criminals are going to have firearms whether they are illegal to own or not. Is a mass shooting a situation where a criminal shoots a number of others, killing others being the sole reason, or is it when a bunch of gangbangers or bikers have a brawl that ends in a gunfight? Thise numbers are included in the stats for mass shootings. Depending on who is tracking it is usually 3 or 4 victims excluding the shooter. Some only consider deaths while some also include wounded. There are virtually no accurate numbers from any source because there isn't really a definition of a mass shooting.

How do the levels of gun violence compare in Ireland and the US?
In Ireland, there were 17 homicides by firearm in 2014. (More recent data shows that there were 39 homicide offenses and 2,517 weapons and explosives offenses in 2021.

Switzerland has very few homicides, almost no firearm related crimes, yet children are encouraged to learn to shoot, there is an annual shooting match for children. They have a very high rate of civilian gun ownership as well, not quite as high as the US but significant.

Different levels of crime, different cultures, there is more to the crime in the US than just gun ownership.
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@Roadsterrider Maybe so. But no other country in the world has mass shootings on the scale of the US. And the reason? There are more guns than people in the US.