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I Think That When Guns Are Outlawed Only Outlaws Will Have Gun

Many are shouting about keeping guns out of the hands of the mentally ill. Like the others it is a feel good solution that will have dire consequences and will have zero effectiveness in curbing the violence.

Mental illness can be very hard to identify since there is no kind of official test for most conditions, most people are diagnosed according to the [b]subjective[/b] opinions of the doctors that observe them. What makes anyone think that a doctor is neutral? We have seen plenty of activist judges, doctors are human as well and many have an agenda!

In the dictionary of mental illnesses, known as DSM-5, published by the American Psychiatric Association, there is actually a condition listed for people who have a problem with authority. Oppositional Defiant Disorder is a name that psychiatrists made up to identify children who won’t do what they are told, and now even adults are being diagnosed with this condition as well. It important to note it is doctors that sit around a conference table deciding what goes into the DSM. The DSM is a tool that is used so when diagnosed they can prescribe. Note also that big pharma spends aprox 40K per year per doctor to get them to prescribe.

A policy like this could also allow the government to disarm dissidents and political enemies. As psychiatry became more influential towards the middle of the 20th century, rulers around the world began using “mental illness” as an excuse to lock away anyone who might disagree with them. The Soviet regime became notorious for this practice by labeling all political dissidents as “mentally ill” so they could be locked away in institutions where they were no threat to the establishment.

The United States government also has a long history of slapping unruly citizens with the mark of mental illness. President Franklin Roosevelt famously called his detractors “the lunatic fringe.

Meanwhile, politicians and mainstream media are quick to label anyone who questions the official narrative as a “conspiracy theorist,” a term that has been falsely associated with mental illness in pop culture.

A study in 2017 set out to determine whether or not believing in conspiracy theories was a form of mental illness. As expected they found the exact answer that they were looking for, people who don’t trust the government and mainstream media are crazy, and suffering from something called illusory pattern perception.

The mentally ill are more likely to be victims as they appear weak than they are to commit a violent crime. We don't need more gun laws what we need is to stop the drugs that doctors hand out in order to increase their profits. These drugs are very well known to cause violent behavior as these poisons change your brain chemistry.

The common denominator of all the mass shootings starting with Columbine is they were all on drugs legally prescribed by doctors. MSM downplays that because it is big pharma paying for them. We want to stop the violence we need to stop the drugs.

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Here are some thoughts:
1. Country with most guns per capita: US. Followed by Serbia and Yemen.
2. US tops the charts amongst developed nations in the highest gun related deaths category.

Banning or pumping more guns is not the solution. We must learn from other countries
1. How can we make law enforcement more effective?
2. Why are we preparing ourselves for an event (protecting from government) that is unlikely to happen. Didn’t we vote for them in the first place? If we are so paranoid about the government, let’s change it.
3. Self defense: do you really need a weapon that can take out an entire enemy unit in a minute?
And please stop comparing guns with automobiles. Automobiles are not built for maximum lethal damage. Guns are.
curiosi · 61-69, F
@curiosi kids in some countries walk around with ak47’s. Is that your idea of perfect society?
@curiosi and the way you threatened me with your right to bear arms is the problem with people these days. My dad is just like that. After receiving a threat from our neighbor with a shotgun because our dog trespassed their lawn, he made sure he always has the upper hand in the intimidation game. Thank you ma’am for helping me make my point here :)
St0ut · 51-55, M
@Texanfire explain Brazil please
@Texanfire - I agree that the US has the most guns. However, countries such as Mexico, Brazil and Venezuela all have more firearm homicides than the US. Several other nations simply have more homicides. I'm not sure if that fits the definition of "developed nation" or not. I've also never heard an explanation as to why the term "developed nation" was injected into that saying.

You bring up interesting questions. To your question about how can we make law enforcement more effective? I would ask...more effective at what? Law enforcement responds to events and situations. Their role is not as much preventative as it is reactionary. In that regard, if you are faced with a life or death scenario with seconds to respond, chances are the police are several minutes away.

Then the question about preparing for government tyranny. Unlikely event? Just ask the Venezuelans who have been disarmed...they didn't believe that a tyranous socialist dictator would disarm them first, and take over their lives, but it just happened. It's happened multiple times throughout history. People with first hand experience as holocaust survivors tell stories of how they were disarmed first. They tell us, "don't give up your guns." Yet for some reason, people don't believe it could happen here in the US? As long as Americans have the right to keep and bear arms, that possibility is reduced considerably.

So let's move onto self defense. What's this about a weapon that can take out an entire enemy unit? Who do you know that has one of those? Oh wait...you don't. Unless you personally know of some terrorists with access to artillery and rockets? Maybe heavy duty .50 cal machine guns? This is such a tired argument that has no basis other than to take us down the slippery slope of a full on gun ban.

The idea is to scare people who know nothing about guns. Want to know the difference between an AR-15 rifle and a Beretta M9 9mm pistol? One of those guns is a true weapon of war. The other is an AR-15. This is the stupidest of all the gun grabbing arguments. EVERY SINGLE conceivable firearm available to the public...semi-automatic rifles, pistols and shotguns, pump action shotguns, bolt action rifles, and even revolvers, has been and is still being used by our military.

Want to go down the "need" path...you know, the bit where someone says you don't need a gun like that...think again. There are 1.1 million home invasions in the US each year. On average, there are three perpetrators involved. Typically they are armed. In that case having an AR-15 or an AK-47 would multiple 30 round magazines is a NEED. You are far more likely to be a victim of a home invasion that you are as a victim in a mass shooting. Millions of citizens own sporting rifles like these. Let's quit pretending owning a firearm like an AR-15 or an AK-47 is something radical and extreme.

As far as guns and cars are concerned. I'll stop comparing car and gun deaths the minute grabbers promise to stop saying, "we have to have to register and have a license for our cars, so why not guns too?" You can't have it both ways.