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Just a little FYI regarding the FBI raid

It is important to remember, the presidential records act –the presented pretext for the document conflict– is not a criminal statute. An FBI raid cannot be predicated on a document conflict between the National Archives and a former president.
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I think it's amusing that some people are not even mildly interested in what the FBI found.
@whippersnapper I'm mildly interested, but even if I saw the inventory, I probably wouldn't know what was on the documents listed. And ... Really I shouldn't.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@MistyCee A few dinner menus and a letter from Obama. Oh and a napkin or two from some state dinner. Not much else. Trump is not so stupid as to keep anything incriminating in his own home. If he has anything it wouldn't be in Melania's lingerie drawer.
@hippyjoe1955 Maybe. But why did he publicize the warrant?

So he can claim stuff was planted?

We'll see, but my guess is Robb got an inventory with more then menus, napkins.

My take on this is that while there's likely something that led to this warrant, Trump is milking it, while at the same time, trying to get the info in the affidavit, which he didn't get and which he and his lawyers really want to see.

Obviously, there's a political angle to all of this, but I'm thinking there's likely some fire under all the smoke, even if it might not have even been intentionally set.

At the end of the day, my guess is we'll find that the hyperbole on "both sides" won't hold up, that defunding the FBI and impeaching Biden or Garland isn't warranted, and that there won't be sufficient evidence to indict Trump for trying to sell state secrets.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@MistyCee a warrant is very thin gruel. It shows nothing.
@hippyjoe1955 just got raised released. Criminal cites.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@MistyCee Which proves?????? The warrant itself doesn't tell you much beyond what the LEOs are allowed to search and take. It can be very vague on purpose.
@hippyjoe1955 Agreed...

Except, on the OP, who "presented" the pretext?
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@MistyCee
https://beckernews.com/trump-adviser-breaks-the-bad-news-to-the-fbi-the-classified-docs-in-their-possession-were-already-declassified-46334/
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hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@MistyCee So lets get this straight. The POTUS upon leaving office is given some documents for his own records by the US archives. It is up to the archivists to sift through the documents before giving them to the retiring President. The president has no say in what documents are given to him and TBH I doubt that many presidents even bother to look at them. However they are given by the records keeper. If there is an errant document in the box of documents then the archivist made a mistake and put it in the box. That completely aside the fact is the as president Trump declassified a whole trove to documents. As president that is his prerogative and not up for questioning. Every president before him has done the same and if tapioca brain Biden ever comes back from holiday he can do exactly the same. Once the documents are declassified then they are available to the president to take home with him if the archivist decides to give him the documents. However there is one thing that you have completely ignored. There was a 14 day window to execute it. Funny how there is such a coincidence though. The raid happened just as Trump's law suit against them is about to begin. Was the raid actually an attempt to remove evidence from the upcoming court case? Certainly has more plausibility than the idea that Trump has the secrets to the US nuclear arsenal and is selling the secrets in Kijji as seems to be the MSM explanation of the need for the raid.
@hippyjoe1955 This 14 day window stuff is new to me.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@MistyCee Its on the warrant. They waited several days before conducting the raid. I suspect it was to keep the secret service detail protecting the former POTUS from shooting the intruders on the spot. Some guys with guns show up waving a piece of paper and showing some sort of badge trying to break into the home of the former POTUS? Can anyone say 'fireworks'?