I Have Legitimate Concerns About Islam And That's Not Bigotry
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room101 · 51-55, M
"Christopher Columbus touched the continent of South America in his 1498 third voyage. In his own 1499 letter to the Catholic Monarchs of Spain, reporting the results of his third voyage, Columbus relates how the massive waters of the Orinoco delta rushing into the Gulf of Paria implied that a previously unknown continent must lie behind it. However, bowing to the classical tripartite division of the world, Columbus discards that hypothesis and proposes instead that the South American landmass is not a "fourth" continent, but rather the terrestrial paradise of Biblical tradition, not a previously unknown "new" part of the world, but a land already "known" (but location undiscovered) by Christendom.[15] In another letter (to the nurse of Prince John, written 1500), Columbus refers to having reached a "new heavens and world" ("nuevo cielo e mundo") and that he had placed "another world" ("otro mundo") under the dominion of the Kings of Spain."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World
"I told you in my very first reply to you that you didn’t understand the meaning of the message in the video clip. I’ll revise that. You ignored the meaning. For the last time, I’ll explain it to you.
It doesn’t matter that there are peaceful, moderate Muslims in the world because, we are addressing the fundamentalists and the radicals and the jihadists and the terrorists.
It doesn’t matter that the peaceful, moderate Muslims are the majority because, the numbers of the fundamentalists and the radicals and the jihadists and the terrorists are so vast, their methods so heinous and their stated objective is so contrary to all that we value that, they are a real existential threat to life as we know it."
from my reply of three days ago. which was my third attempt at explaining the central points to you.
yet again......
TOTALLY IRRELEVANT. TRY AGAIN!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World
"I told you in my very first reply to you that you didn’t understand the meaning of the message in the video clip. I’ll revise that. You ignored the meaning. For the last time, I’ll explain it to you.
It doesn’t matter that there are peaceful, moderate Muslims in the world because, we are addressing the fundamentalists and the radicals and the jihadists and the terrorists.
It doesn’t matter that the peaceful, moderate Muslims are the majority because, the numbers of the fundamentalists and the radicals and the jihadists and the terrorists are so vast, their methods so heinous and their stated objective is so contrary to all that we value that, they are a real existential threat to life as we know it."
from my reply of three days ago. which was my third attempt at explaining the central points to you.
yet again......
TOTALLY IRRELEVANT. TRY AGAIN!
Northwest · M
@room101 posted another 154 words of irrelevance, as a smoke screen, to cover up for having, ignorantly, said:
[quote]During the 1400’s, the Portuguese were establishing trade routes between Europe and the New World[/quote]
Hey room101. Since you posted that video, without a single comment, what's the reader to assume? Can they assume that your intent is to expose her as a liar, as not a single so called "fact" she listed, is actually a fact?
Should they assume that you posted it, because this is a clip from a right-wing nuts, conference, to blame Secretary Clinton, for the deaths at Benghazi?
Should they assume that you're trying to expose her, when she said that ALL intelligence agencies estimate that up to 25% of Muslims are radicals? In a different version of her (not so spontaneous) speech, she attributes it to Pew research (another lie).
What?
Oh, so, now you're saying "It doesn’t matter that there are peaceful, moderate Muslims in the world because, we are addressing the fundamentalists and the radicals and the jihadists and the terrorists."
Which, by the way, was not the topic of the conference, she was speaking at.
So, then I will go back to my earlier response: an ideology of terror, has nothing to do with a religion. Trying to paint it as something that's specific to a single religion, is idiotic at best, and bigoted at worse.
As an American, the terror that strikes my country, is not Islam related, despite the attacks that were carried in the name of Islam. It is racism, bigotry and separation of the races, that's producing tens of thousands of casualties, in our inner cities.
If the West, and bigots, want to deal with the crime wave, rising through its Muslim Ghettos, then it needs to think really hard, about how to integrate these folks into their societies, just as we need to think hard about how, despite more than a century of history, we have failed to integrate the black and latino ghettos into our societies.
[quote]During the 1400’s, the Portuguese were establishing trade routes between Europe and the New World[/quote]
Hey room101. Since you posted that video, without a single comment, what's the reader to assume? Can they assume that your intent is to expose her as a liar, as not a single so called "fact" she listed, is actually a fact?
Should they assume that you posted it, because this is a clip from a right-wing nuts, conference, to blame Secretary Clinton, for the deaths at Benghazi?
Should they assume that you're trying to expose her, when she said that ALL intelligence agencies estimate that up to 25% of Muslims are radicals? In a different version of her (not so spontaneous) speech, she attributes it to Pew research (another lie).
What?
Oh, so, now you're saying "It doesn’t matter that there are peaceful, moderate Muslims in the world because, we are addressing the fundamentalists and the radicals and the jihadists and the terrorists."
Which, by the way, was not the topic of the conference, she was speaking at.
So, then I will go back to my earlier response: an ideology of terror, has nothing to do with a religion. Trying to paint it as something that's specific to a single religion, is idiotic at best, and bigoted at worse.
As an American, the terror that strikes my country, is not Islam related, despite the attacks that were carried in the name of Islam. It is racism, bigotry and separation of the races, that's producing tens of thousands of casualties, in our inner cities.
If the West, and bigots, want to deal with the crime wave, rising through its Muslim Ghettos, then it needs to think really hard, about how to integrate these folks into their societies, just as we need to think hard about how, despite more than a century of history, we have failed to integrate the black and latino ghettos into our societies.
room101 · 51-55, M
clearly you know as much about the history of your own continent as you know about WW2 Germany and Japan, the history of Lebanon and the rise to power of Khomeini.......which is bugger all!
an ideology of terror which is perpetrated by a single religion does indeed have everything to do with that religion. particularly when the perpetrators of that terrorism specifically give their religion as their cause.
i was going to end with;
TOTALLY IRRELEVANT. TRY AGAIN
but i won't bother because, even in the face of the failure of all of your straw man arguments, you've still got a bug up your arse about blaming the west. and no Northwest, criminality is not synonymous with terrorism.
so no Northwest, don't try again. you're full of shit and you have been all along.
an ideology of terror which is perpetrated by a single religion does indeed have everything to do with that religion. particularly when the perpetrators of that terrorism specifically give their religion as their cause.
i was going to end with;
TOTALLY IRRELEVANT. TRY AGAIN
but i won't bother because, even in the face of the failure of all of your straw man arguments, you've still got a bug up your arse about blaming the west. and no Northwest, criminality is not synonymous with terrorism.
so no Northwest, don't try again. you're full of shit and you have been all along.
Northwest · M
@room101: when you say
[quote]During the 1400’s, the Portuguese were establishing trade routes between Europe and the New World[/quote]
and that you double down with:
[quote]clearly you know as much about the history of your own continent as you know about WW2 Germany and Japan, the history of Lebanon and the rise to power of Khomeini.......which is bugger all![/quote]
As difficult as it may be for you to accept it, history records that the first confirmed trip by the Portuguese, to reach the New World, was in 1501. That Columbus, did not reach the new world until October of 1492. That, when WWII started, Hitler's program was supported by the German majority. That the Japanese majority, supported Tojo's plans, celebrated them, and fought until the last man. That since Lebanon gained its independence, Lebanon's Christians, had a "constitutional" majority in the House of Parliament of 54 to 54, as well as the Presidency, the leadership of the Army, and the intelligence services (military and civilian). Even in 1990, when the Constitution was modified, followed a bloody war, Christians have a 50% share of Parliamentary seats, as well as the Presidency, leadership of the Armed forces and Intelligence Services.
[quote]i was going to end with;
TOTALLY IRRELEVANT. TRY AGAIN
but i won't bother b[/quote]
But you did. Even when you attempt sarcasm, it backfires on you. When you post the works of a fraud, and support it, it makes you a fraud. Get used to it.
[quote]During the 1400’s, the Portuguese were establishing trade routes between Europe and the New World[/quote]
and that you double down with:
[quote]clearly you know as much about the history of your own continent as you know about WW2 Germany and Japan, the history of Lebanon and the rise to power of Khomeini.......which is bugger all![/quote]
As difficult as it may be for you to accept it, history records that the first confirmed trip by the Portuguese, to reach the New World, was in 1501. That Columbus, did not reach the new world until October of 1492. That, when WWII started, Hitler's program was supported by the German majority. That the Japanese majority, supported Tojo's plans, celebrated them, and fought until the last man. That since Lebanon gained its independence, Lebanon's Christians, had a "constitutional" majority in the House of Parliament of 54 to 54, as well as the Presidency, the leadership of the Army, and the intelligence services (military and civilian). Even in 1990, when the Constitution was modified, followed a bloody war, Christians have a 50% share of Parliamentary seats, as well as the Presidency, leadership of the Armed forces and Intelligence Services.
[quote]i was going to end with;
TOTALLY IRRELEVANT. TRY AGAIN
but i won't bother b[/quote]
But you did. Even when you attempt sarcasm, it backfires on you. When you post the works of a fraud, and support it, it makes you a fraud. Get used to it.