I Have Legitimate Concerns About Islam And That's Not Bigotry
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Northwest · M
@room101:
Yes, given how complex geopolitics are, to continuously drag the past into the present, to score points, is, frankly, pointless. So, when I raised some legitimate issues, with the video:
1. Ms. Gabriel, being a known liar, starting with the fabrication of her own biography.
2. That she lied when she created an equivalency between WWII Japan and Germany, but saying that those who supported the war were a minority. No, they were a majority.
3. That she actually knows, that Radical Islam (whatever that means), represents at least 25% of Islam.
Well, that's it. #2, and #3 is the bulk of that video.
So, what you did, is immediately accuse me of being ignorant, and you brought Khomeini, a man who's been dead for 27 years, into it. At that point, I needed to remind you, that your government is the one that brought Khomeini to power, by re-instating, by force, the Shah of Iran, to keep British Petroleum in charge, not to mention having randomly drawn up a map of the Middle/Near East, 100 years ago, to favor British interest, leading to the fucked up situation we have today.
What's more interesting, is what you claim is my "woefully inaccurate understanding of the events which led to Khomeini becoming the Supreme Leader of Iran"
You're either a demagogue, or too ignorant of the facts. I'll leave it up to you to decide, but Khomeini, did not instantly become a leader in exile. It started with Mossadegh, the democratically elected Prime Minister of Iran, from 1951 to 1953. Mossadegh, was moving the country toward a secular democracy, and the nationalization of the oil industry, something BP, and by extension, the British Government. So, MI6 talked the CIA, into organizing a coup, to oust Mossadegh, and re-installing the Shah as a supreme leader. The Shah empowered his entourage, and abused the people, leading to Khomeini's rise. Khomeini fled the country in 1964, and established the Islamic resistance, that eventually led to the Shah's demise.
So, you're welcome. Is your vision as Myopic, as your understanding of his history?
What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, and when you start slinging mud, don't be surprised if you get push back.
At that point, you threw a tantrum, and took us back to slavery. Though, I really wonder, who started the slave trade in the New World. I wonder who?
FYI: I didn't think something this simple needs explaining, but apparently, you need to be told that millions of Germans, attended Hitler's rallies, but not necessarily the same rally. Although, his biggest rallies, fit 350,000 in the parade grounds (Neuremberg) and upward of 1.5 million around it.
Majority = 100% is something you proposed, when you put all Americans in the same class as Trump. You said it was my logic, but it was simply a strawman, you threw into the mix.
Since you're poor at reading comprehension, I did respond to your proposal of peaceful resistance, to counter radical Islam, and told you that, in the US, it did not manage to change White attitude. That took decades, and it's still here, given the lessons of our last two elections.
Evolution, education, and improved socio-economic conditions, will fix that, if we allow it to. It will not happen, as long as people like you, and the phony Ms. Gabriel, keep spreading a message of hate.
Yes, given how complex geopolitics are, to continuously drag the past into the present, to score points, is, frankly, pointless. So, when I raised some legitimate issues, with the video:
1. Ms. Gabriel, being a known liar, starting with the fabrication of her own biography.
2. That she lied when she created an equivalency between WWII Japan and Germany, but saying that those who supported the war were a minority. No, they were a majority.
3. That she actually knows, that Radical Islam (whatever that means), represents at least 25% of Islam.
Well, that's it. #2, and #3 is the bulk of that video.
So, what you did, is immediately accuse me of being ignorant, and you brought Khomeini, a man who's been dead for 27 years, into it. At that point, I needed to remind you, that your government is the one that brought Khomeini to power, by re-instating, by force, the Shah of Iran, to keep British Petroleum in charge, not to mention having randomly drawn up a map of the Middle/Near East, 100 years ago, to favor British interest, leading to the fucked up situation we have today.
What's more interesting, is what you claim is my "woefully inaccurate understanding of the events which led to Khomeini becoming the Supreme Leader of Iran"
You're either a demagogue, or too ignorant of the facts. I'll leave it up to you to decide, but Khomeini, did not instantly become a leader in exile. It started with Mossadegh, the democratically elected Prime Minister of Iran, from 1951 to 1953. Mossadegh, was moving the country toward a secular democracy, and the nationalization of the oil industry, something BP, and by extension, the British Government. So, MI6 talked the CIA, into organizing a coup, to oust Mossadegh, and re-installing the Shah as a supreme leader. The Shah empowered his entourage, and abused the people, leading to Khomeini's rise. Khomeini fled the country in 1964, and established the Islamic resistance, that eventually led to the Shah's demise.
So, you're welcome. Is your vision as Myopic, as your understanding of his history?
What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, and when you start slinging mud, don't be surprised if you get push back.
At that point, you threw a tantrum, and took us back to slavery. Though, I really wonder, who started the slave trade in the New World. I wonder who?
FYI: I didn't think something this simple needs explaining, but apparently, you need to be told that millions of Germans, attended Hitler's rallies, but not necessarily the same rally. Although, his biggest rallies, fit 350,000 in the parade grounds (Neuremberg) and upward of 1.5 million around it.
Majority = 100% is something you proposed, when you put all Americans in the same class as Trump. You said it was my logic, but it was simply a strawman, you threw into the mix.
Since you're poor at reading comprehension, I did respond to your proposal of peaceful resistance, to counter radical Islam, and told you that, in the US, it did not manage to change White attitude. That took decades, and it's still here, given the lessons of our last two elections.
Evolution, education, and improved socio-economic conditions, will fix that, if we allow it to. It will not happen, as long as people like you, and the phony Ms. Gabriel, keep spreading a message of hate.