I Have Legitimate Concerns About Islam And That's Not Bigotry
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room101 · 51-55, M
@Northwest. Is there really any point in discussing this with somebody who clearly can only resort to pointless rhetoric. I’ll try. But forgive me if chose to deal in like for like.
Scratch the surface of pretty much any nation at pretty much any point in history and we find all manner of nefarious deeds. You know, like perpetuating slavery decades after it was banished in the UK, France and a number of other European countries. Or maybe a nation whose commercial interests govern everything from the wellbeing of its citizens to its foreign policy. Or maybe a nation which seemingly sees no value in the lives of its black citizens. But that’s not the point. As you say, we evolve. Shame that the “white folks” you speak of are still finding it almost impossible to evolve. But, we live in hope.
So what is the point, I hear you ask. It’s that evolution requires some kind of trigger. Some kind of change in the environment. I, Ms Gabriel, Maajid Nawaz and many others, see that change as coming from Islam itself. You know, just like it did in the Christian world during The Reformation. The next question being, how do we encourage such a reformation in the Islamic world. Well, I already gave my answer to that. Something that you chose to ignore and, instead, decided to focus on my poor maths. Erm, one little question (you’ve probably noticed that I like asking questions, just as I’m willing to offer solutions) where did I state that majority equals 100%?
As to your woefully inaccurate understanding of the events which led to Khomeini becoming the Supreme Leader of Iran; he had been in exile for fourteen years because of his opposition to the Shah and the U.S. He opposed the U.S. because of the influence your nation had over the Shah and, to him, you were The Great Satan. In January 1979, the Shah left Iran ostensibly on vacation. The reality being that he had been encouraged to leave by Iran’s Prime Minister, Shapour Bakhtiar, who convinced him that he would calm the political unrest in his absence. Within two weeks Khomeini had seized power. Within ten months the American embassy siege commenced and the world has lived under the threat of Islamic terrorism ever since.
Finally, I ended my previous reply to you by asking if you had a solution to this plague. You didn’t reply so, I’m asking again. What’s your suggestion?
Scratch the surface of pretty much any nation at pretty much any point in history and we find all manner of nefarious deeds. You know, like perpetuating slavery decades after it was banished in the UK, France and a number of other European countries. Or maybe a nation whose commercial interests govern everything from the wellbeing of its citizens to its foreign policy. Or maybe a nation which seemingly sees no value in the lives of its black citizens. But that’s not the point. As you say, we evolve. Shame that the “white folks” you speak of are still finding it almost impossible to evolve. But, we live in hope.
So what is the point, I hear you ask. It’s that evolution requires some kind of trigger. Some kind of change in the environment. I, Ms Gabriel, Maajid Nawaz and many others, see that change as coming from Islam itself. You know, just like it did in the Christian world during The Reformation. The next question being, how do we encourage such a reformation in the Islamic world. Well, I already gave my answer to that. Something that you chose to ignore and, instead, decided to focus on my poor maths. Erm, one little question (you’ve probably noticed that I like asking questions, just as I’m willing to offer solutions) where did I state that majority equals 100%?
As to your woefully inaccurate understanding of the events which led to Khomeini becoming the Supreme Leader of Iran; he had been in exile for fourteen years because of his opposition to the Shah and the U.S. He opposed the U.S. because of the influence your nation had over the Shah and, to him, you were The Great Satan. In January 1979, the Shah left Iran ostensibly on vacation. The reality being that he had been encouraged to leave by Iran’s Prime Minister, Shapour Bakhtiar, who convinced him that he would calm the political unrest in his absence. Within two weeks Khomeini had seized power. Within ten months the American embassy siege commenced and the world has lived under the threat of Islamic terrorism ever since.
Finally, I ended my previous reply to you by asking if you had a solution to this plague. You didn’t reply so, I’m asking again. What’s your suggestion?