Here I am sharing videos from the river and somehow she links what I am talking about to religion 🙇🏻♀
Not bad enough that I used to deal with this nonesense with mother..she too does it now.
Despite of feeling she is just trying to insert religion..I was still listening to her describe a Hadith story about divine mercy about someone being forgiven even while trying to escape hell.
And I responded by making a distinction that mattered to me: I wasn’t denying mercy, I was questioning its place when harm has been done to other people.
I said that if someone’s actions involved injustice toward others, like murder and assault , then a truly just and “perfect” God would have to account for that first, that justice, in those cases, can’t simply be overridden by mercy without meaning something is left unresolved. Balance needs be in mercy. That's what a perfect God would be. And also, no one should be getting any special treatment as opposed to others.
As I was walking away, she reduced everything I said to "so God isn’t merciful,” she said this mocking me..which wasn’t my position at all. It felt like my argument was flattened into something easier to dismiss, instead of being engaged with on its own terms.
And that’s where it stopped feeling like a one-off misunderstanding. I’ve seen this pattern before with her and other Muslims, where what I actually say gets reshaped into something else, something more convenient to push back against.
Over time, it starts to feel less like a conversation and more like a subtle rewriting of my words. It creates this sense that the discussion is ALWAYS about preserving a certain certainty where anything that challenges it gets redirected rather than examined.
It is manipulative.
That’s what got to me, the repetition of it..the sense that instead of meeting my perspective where it stands, it gets turned into something it never was again and again.
So I snapped and criticized her severely. I criticized her inability to give up her small thrills even though they are against her religion and what that means about the strength of her faith, I criticized her initial need to discuss religion as insecurity and inability to experience life in the moment, the incompleteness of her mind..the inability to see magic in life itself so much that she wants to talk about the afterlife..I criticized it as disconnection from the environment..I criticized her view of god and the way she can't seem to understand any nuances..I said a lot.
So again now Miram is the bad guy.
Despite of feeling she is just trying to insert religion..I was still listening to her describe a Hadith story about divine mercy about someone being forgiven even while trying to escape hell.
And I responded by making a distinction that mattered to me: I wasn’t denying mercy, I was questioning its place when harm has been done to other people.
I said that if someone’s actions involved injustice toward others, like murder and assault , then a truly just and “perfect” God would have to account for that first, that justice, in those cases, can’t simply be overridden by mercy without meaning something is left unresolved. Balance needs be in mercy. That's what a perfect God would be. And also, no one should be getting any special treatment as opposed to others.
As I was walking away, she reduced everything I said to "so God isn’t merciful,” she said this mocking me..which wasn’t my position at all. It felt like my argument was flattened into something easier to dismiss, instead of being engaged with on its own terms.
And that’s where it stopped feeling like a one-off misunderstanding. I’ve seen this pattern before with her and other Muslims, where what I actually say gets reshaped into something else, something more convenient to push back against.
Over time, it starts to feel less like a conversation and more like a subtle rewriting of my words. It creates this sense that the discussion is ALWAYS about preserving a certain certainty where anything that challenges it gets redirected rather than examined.
It is manipulative.
That’s what got to me, the repetition of it..the sense that instead of meeting my perspective where it stands, it gets turned into something it never was again and again.
So I snapped and criticized her severely. I criticized her inability to give up her small thrills even though they are against her religion and what that means about the strength of her faith, I criticized her initial need to discuss religion as insecurity and inability to experience life in the moment, the incompleteness of her mind..the inability to see magic in life itself so much that she wants to talk about the afterlife..I criticized it as disconnection from the environment..I criticized her view of god and the way she can't seem to understand any nuances..I said a lot.
So again now Miram is the bad guy.
