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is anyone worried about the online safety bill and digital ID in the uk

just saw some scottish woman on youtube upload avideo about it, she was lolling and i felt angered because i see nothing funny about any of it at all.....i don't know too much about this bill or digital ID but i hope we the people can fight it and stop it from happening, because it all sounds very draconian and totalitarian to me, like, the uk is becoming a dictatorship...anyway i digress.

are you worried about this online safety bill and digital ID and is there anything we can do to fight it? or stop it?
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ArishMell · 70-79, M
No-one can "fight" it without knowing what it proposes and what laws eventually emerge; and then must consider carefully what are its weaknesses and strengths. Blanket opposition based on knowing little about is wrong.

Besides, laws are made for us by our elected Parliament, so if you wish to oppose it, write a clear, reasoned and constructive letter explaining your concerns, to your MP.

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One, perhaps main, aim is to try to reduce the pornography too readily available to children, and to fight illegal material. The latter includes the paedophilic material that hogs the headlines, but most of the criminal activity on the Internet is financial, plus illicit trading of illegal goods.

There is also a vast amount of bullying via [anti]social-media sites that do nothing to stop it - perhaps as such action might compromise their own commercial interests .

It is not draconian. It is not to stop people using the Internet; but if it greatly reduces the risk of people being hurt by wrongful Internet use, then it is not before time and might even not go far enough.

So often we hear companies like Meta bleating about how many wrongful posts they have removed; while Elon Musk has made it harder for 'X' as he now calls it to do that, and Telegram refuses to use any moderation at all.

Occasionally these companies are fined very heavily for various offences, usually connected to their monopolism, but perhaps not heavily enough to make them think.

Not enough. I suggest the companies should do more than just remove offending posts. They should also permanently block the sender identified by URL (to obstruct new-name dodges), even the URL itself. While the directors of these companies should be personally responsible in law too, as they are in Corporate Manslaughter and other Health and Safety laws. It is their responsibility to ensure the moderators and technical staff have the resources, training and support to keep the site "clean" in law.


I do not fear the On-Line Safety Bill.
I do not use the Internet for anything unlawful or antisocial, be that viewing illegal contents or me bullying someone.
I do not use my computer for copyright-breaking "streaming", or as a TV without a TV licence (though these forms of theft are a separate matter).
I do not fear there might be any special controls or oversight of my use.

Why should I?
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@ninalanyon Having a right to reach the data is not a command to do so, and is not ever so different from what a lot of regulations allow now when investigating suspicious activity.

It is not even a statement that they will if only by simply not having the need, wish or resources to do so. especially private individuals, unless those individuals do something that alerts the authorities (or someone tips them off!).

If I worry about someone in some agency might want to see what I spend my money on, what web-sites I view or with whom I converse on-line; I stop and ask myself, "Am I really so important to them, are they likely to, and would it matter to me?" The answers are, no, no and no.

Anyway it's not the governmental or law authorities who worry me, but criminals wanting my details for nefarious purposes, and the likes of Google wanting them to sell to advertising agencies.
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@ArishMell
but criminals wanting my details for nefarious purposes,
Weakening encryption allows criminals easier access.

So now we have to rely on agencies just not feeling like accessing our data? Why should they not have to get a warrant just as they did to intercept telephone calls or the post? And in those days I'm pretty sure that local councils couldn't have got a warrant even if they wanted yet they have such rights under RIPA and have exercised them.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@ninalanyon Weakened encryption ought deter wrongful use because it would be easier to spot. As it should be! One area of serious crime the proposed bill is intended to help crack down on is paedophilia but actually there are far more financial offences, money-laundering and the like.

What does worry me though is not our governments - I do not fear them - using such systems, but dictatorships, for the Internet is one of the few ways their citizens can tell the rest of the world what is happening there.

agencies just not feeling like accessing our data?

I do not think for one moment that would be their control; but if you put yourself in their position would you really want to trawl through millions of people's private data to find anything wrong? They have for a long time been able to spot suspicious telephone activity without interception, simply by patterns of the numbers used; but that's not exactly intrusive and only used if they have reasonable grounds.

I think people are becoming too alarmed about something that should not alarm them - but we live in a world where more and people have less and less concept of personal privacy and security anyway. Hence- hence the success of commercial data-harvesters like Facebook / Meta; and of bad behaviour like crowd-bullying on such sites. I am not a drug-dealer, terrorist or porn-merchant; I do not bully people or spread "conspiracy theory" lies on Twitter or FB; but I fear those big American internet companies far more than any Governmental agency.
The IT company behind it belongs to Rishi Sunak's father-in-law. He must be removed.
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MarineBob · 56-60, M
Wait we can't even afford to make sure every American has a real ID yet.
ArtieKat · M
i don't know too much about this bill or digital ID but i hope we the people can fight it and stop it from happening,

That says it all really.
durinsBane1983 · 46-50, M
@TheEmperor what is your opinion about me? i'm interested to hear.
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ArtieKat · M
@durinsBane1983
i'm honestly not russian or a troll, as i told you before
You're hardly likely to admit it if I am right. Even you can't be that thick!
msros · F
Blame it on the slimy Fishy Rishi
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FreestyleArt · 36-40, M
Give them a BIG FAT F U!!!!!!!!

 
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