When Can We Start Buying the AK-12?

@DiegoWolfe What are you talking about?

35+12=47

Ak12. I’m intrigued @patkaren1717

@Jasondf Shows you have no idea about Rifles. Do some research into it.

You’re not talking about an AK 12 ga? They make them you know. It’s just that there hasn’t been any good ones since Obama sanctioned Russia and stopped importing saiga I was hoping you had some new information @patkaren1717

@Jasondf Saiga is the shotgun, Ak12 is recent AK chambered for 5.45×39mm

Saiga's are easy to find, many are made over here nowadays

Hmm is that a new chambering?

What’s that one that was outlawed because they said the round was armor piercing? I forgot. @wildbill83

@Jasondf its been around since mid 70's, basically Russian version of .223

@Jasondf you can get AP rounds for just about anything or hand load them, nothing special there

Yeah. Is anyone making legal ammo for that one? Didn’t know it was called the ak12. They had so many variants to get around the crime bill it was hard to keep up. @wildbill83

I reload but I don’t mess with the Russian stuff. Brass issues. Still thanks for the information. Remember when the saigas were $150 bucks now they’re up around $800.? Crazy. You know if the Chinese ones are any good? I’ve heard they’re not@wildbill83

@Jasondf AK's are garbage imo, poor accuracy and Saiga's notorious for jams/failure to feed

I've put hundred of rounds through my Panzer Arms AR12 (AR15 style shotgun) without a single issue, 2 3/4", 3", shot, slugs, etc. makes no difference, cycles them all without any gas adjustment

That’s a useful piece of information. Thanks. Never had an ak or variant. Not accurate enough for me. No I’m an AR guy. Just gotta keep em clean. Thanks for the heads up@wildbill83

@Jasondf had both, AK was 2-3 moa@100yards at best with factory ammo. My AR is 1/2" moa

Only accurate rifles are interesting @wildbill83