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If you try to open schools in areas of high virus transmission or school districts where virus transmission is accelerating, it is inevitable that

[b]teachers, staff, bus drivers will contract #COVID19. Once that happens, things will fall apart rapidly.[/b]

[b]Agree or disagree?[/b]
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Adstar · 56-60, M
How long do you keep kids from going to school? 6 months? 6 Years?

This covid isn't going anywhere.. All that all these current efforts are doing is just delaying things a bit.. Sooner or later people will have to go back to work, back to living their lives which includes kids going back to school..

As things are now we are going to end up with a smashed economy, illiterate kids and huge national debts AND Covid 19...
Elessar · 26-30, M
@Adstar 6 months after the beginning of everything, there are dozens of potential vaccines candidates, some of which passing 2/3 of the clinical trials (and pending the latest prior marketing), and dozens of new potential treatments every month. No one dies or becomes illiterate if schools opening was delayed for another few months, to be frank. It's just that opening is popular, i.e. votes for the idiots in chief, especially by the pandemic deniers.

The economy in countries that didn't lockdown is going to shit exactly like in countries that did, last time I checked, by the way.
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@Adstar I’m gonna assume you’re not in agreement. 🤭
Adstar · 56-60, M
@SimplyTracie You're gonna assume are you ??? Well then i am gonna assume that you're a stereotypical blond vacuum headed retard because anyone with a decent IQ count having read my reply would not have to assume i am not in agreement.. They would KNOW i am not in agreement..

Yeah and don't wait for the ditzy headed giggle emote.. 🤨 Yeah now have another giggle at this reply.. 😡 [b]Simple[/b] Tracie..
Elessar · 26-30, M
@SimplyTracie It took you a simple "🤭" emoji to trigger this [i]lion[/i]

... 🤭
Graylight · 51-55, F
@Adstar Easily triggered, huh? Sorry to see that.

If we would shut down this country - a full, concerted shut down =- for a single month, we might be able to largely eradicate the virus here. There's plenty of evidence to suggest that's precisely why some countries are affected to little now.

It doesn't take an eternity of idiocy to wait out a virus; it only takes targeted action based on science to bring things down to a workable level. Gotta watch that binary thinking there.
Adstar · 56-60, M
@Graylight When retarded blonds laugh at you then it is triggering.. But we are all human.. So it was not so much as being laughed at.. It was Who was laughing at me that was too much..

Anyway lets run with your strategy since you offered arguments and reason.. Lets say you do eradicate Covid from the entire USA by implementing a Perfect Lock down.. ( which is impossible knowing human nature always sabotages such efforts ) But lets just say it's a success..

The problem then will be you have to close all your borders ( yeah you got to build that Trump wall lol ) and sea ports, airports and all international Trade, Tourists and immigrants.. You become an isolated nation and you MUST keep that isolation solid because one thing is sure 3rd world nations do not have the organization and capability to shut down perfectly to eradicate Covid 19 ..

How much of the USA's economy is dependent on international trade? Hint it's a Lot..

So now you have a great depression and you are lacking all the manufactures your nation now imports.. Your farmers can no longer export and the rare earth metals your country accesses from overseas are cut off.. You know the rare earths that are essential to your high tech devices you guys are permanently attached to all day as you walk down the street..

You see the only nation i know that succeed in stopping Covid was New Zealand and it shut down it's country to all foreign contact when it had 40 cases.. But now it is in a recession.. A permanent recession, because it is even more dependent on exports of food and tourism.. For a perfect situation to be maintained it must shut down all imports of cars and electronic devices too because a Chinese worker handling parts of an I phone can transfer covid just as easy as coughing on you..

Oh and just as an interesting side note.. Sweden Never shut down.. You know awesome example of a socialist paradise Sweden with a feminist government ?? It only instituted social distancing and other limiting policies and kept people going to work to keep the economy running.. Yeah they had more cases of covid per population.. But their suicide rate has not jumped and the rate of bankrupts have not gone ballistic..
Elessar · 26-30, M
@Adstar We locked down for 2 months here in Italy, and to the displeasure of all our Cassandras, we're still here and haven't defaulted (in spite of entering it with an economy that wasn't definitely in a good shape, especially compared to yours). Industrial production was never completely halted, nor essential businesses. No one starved, as far as I know. There was no need for walls, sealed ports or anything because you can bet no one wants to be there in the mid of a country-level lockdown (at most they'll want a wall from you, not viceversa). Do you seriously think the 1st economy in the world can't survive what the 8th just did?

The only significant difference between our two countries at the moment are the pandemic curves:

Sweden never had +40k cases/day, you can't draw a comparison with countries only marginally hit, and above all, where population density and social habits are drastically different. Sweden doesn't have wild Karens refusing to social distance or wear masks, or people gathering to manifest against the initial lockdowns at first, and further protests later.
Adstar · 56-60, M
@Elessar Basic information that your statistics hide..

Brazil Covid deaths per 1,000,000 population = 453
USA Covid deaths per 1,000,000 population = 485
Italy Covid deaths per 1,000,000 population = 586

Oh and i will throw in the glorious socialit paradise of Sweden as a bonus::

Sweden Covid deaths per 1,000,000 population = 574

So out of the 4 nations above gold medal Brazil 🥇 is performing best followed by Silver medal USA 🥈 with No shut down Sweden 🥉 taking the bronze medal.. With your Italy 🤒 performing the worst of the 4 nations.. and that's why you focuses on shear numbers rather then actual deaths in proportion to population.. The USA and Brazil have very large populations and when that is taken into account then the end results come in way different then simply using case numbers..
Elessar · 26-30, M
@Adstar Except that at this rate your 1st and 2nd [i]winners[/i] are going to fall behind everyone else in not too long. Italy was hit first and more than 30/34k people died before May, unless we'll experience a second wave as potent as the first anytime soon, our ratio is gonna stay steady, yours is going to worsen. Also, look at life expectancy and average age of American, Brazilian, Swedish and Italians, then draw a comparison.

Young people die much more frequently from covid-19 in the U.S. than in Italy, last time I checked. Even if you divide by total pop.

I wouldn't call your present situation a "win".
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@Adstar Anyone with half a brain would know I was being sarcastic. 🤭🤣