When will the news media
start telling people that most people who test positive for this virus never even get sick, and of the ones who do, most recover fully! All they tell is the negative and that's why we have this mass panic!
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Miram · 31-35, F
[quote]start telling people that most people who test positive for this virus never even get sick,[/quote]
It is true that most people recover, but all studies show that asymptomatic infection is extremely rare. Lower than 1.2 percent which is an estimation drawn in china and later on confirmed to include pre-symptomatic phase of patients.
It is true that most people recover, but all studies show that asymptomatic infection is extremely rare. Lower than 1.2 percent which is an estimation drawn in china and later on confirmed to include pre-symptomatic phase of patients.
Miram · 31-35, F
@questionWeaver Not entirely, partly. Most transmission happens in the presence of symptoms according to what we know so far.
[quote]Can someone spread the virus without being sick?
People are thought to be most contagious when they are most symptomatic (the sickest).
Some spread might be possible before people show symptoms; there have been reports of this occurring with this new coronavirus, but this is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads.
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CDC quote.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prepare/transmission.html
The test, if other appropriate measures are imposed to trace potential infected individuals, has been valuable. Where I am working currently and in the pre-symptomatic phase we identified twenty patients thanks to testing the primary symptomatic patient and all of those who had contact with here. Placing them in quarantine helps limit the number of infection, or at least slow it down.
[quote]Can someone spread the virus without being sick?
People are thought to be most contagious when they are most symptomatic (the sickest).
Some spread might be possible before people show symptoms; there have been reports of this occurring with this new coronavirus, but this is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads.
[/quote]
CDC quote.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prepare/transmission.html
The test, if other appropriate measures are imposed to trace potential infected individuals, has been valuable. Where I am working currently and in the pre-symptomatic phase we identified twenty patients thanks to testing the primary symptomatic patient and all of those who had contact with here. Placing them in quarantine helps limit the number of infection, or at least slow it down.
@Miram clearly that CDC quote is not correct
Incubation is from 2 to 14 days, with average of 5.2
The virus sheds, during incubation, 1000x greater than during symptomatic phase ... with a strikingly sharp decline immediately after symptoms appear.
Thus, spread is mathematically more likely to be occurring before the patient is aware they are ill.
Thus, explains why people have been able to infect distant places and return PRIOR to feeling discomfort or showing indications of illness.
Incubation is from 2 to 14 days, with average of 5.2
The virus sheds, during incubation, 1000x greater than during symptomatic phase ... with a strikingly sharp decline immediately after symptoms appear.
Thus, spread is mathematically more likely to be occurring before the patient is aware they are ill.
Thus, explains why people have been able to infect distant places and return PRIOR to feeling discomfort or showing indications of illness.
Miram · 31-35, F
@questionWeaver
Please refer to the website. I copied it word per word because you claimed the CDC said otherwise.
So far all studies show that transmission happens MOST times during the symptomatic phase.
There aren't any studies that I am aware of which prove your claim but I am open if you do have links I can access.
Please refer to the website. I copied it word per word because you claimed the CDC said otherwise.
So far all studies show that transmission happens MOST times during the symptomatic phase.
There aren't any studies that I am aware of which prove your claim but I am open if you do have links I can access.
Miram · 31-35, F
@questionWeaver
And just to be clear virus shedding and transmission are two different things. The coronvirus can shed through the digestive system and not be transmitted as often because there isn't enough person to person contact with feces and urine.
And just to be clear virus shedding and transmission are two different things. The coronvirus can shed through the digestive system and not be transmitted as often because there isn't enough person to person contact with feces and urine.
@Miram we are not here to argue ... I am not here to convince anybody ... yes, I am educated enough to know the difference between shedding and transmission ... yes, I did research the papers and associated math ... no, the math simply does not work if the the prime transmission is after symptoms appear ... it just doesn't ... we would have to reinvent math.
No, I do not keep the links to all the papers I read ... there is no reason to
I did find MANY papers and associated studies, all recent, that noted the prime transmission point is prior to symptoms ... the lady during the presidential press conference noted exactly this yesterday.
Appreciate your interest
No, I do not keep the links to all the papers I read ... there is no reason to
I did find MANY papers and associated studies, all recent, that noted the prime transmission point is prior to symptoms ... the lady during the presidential press conference noted exactly this yesterday.
Appreciate your interest
Miram · 31-35, F
@questionWeaver
You are addressing me. And I choose to set whatever boundaries I see fit so you don't waste my very valuable time and resources, especially when it comes to a serious issue. So please again, refrain from giving me false information. This is not your field of expertise.
You are addressing me. And I choose to set whatever boundaries I see fit so you don't waste my very valuable time and resources, especially when it comes to a serious issue. So please again, refrain from giving me false information. This is not your field of expertise.
@Miram lol .. move on and place your valuable time elsewhere.
You have no idea my expertise ... and SW has no requirement whatsoever that anybody has to verify anything, including expertise or credentials.
Actually, it is discouraged for us to do that ... cause it undermines the anonymity requirement of free discussion.
Your solution is to stop reading!
You have no idea my expertise ... and SW has no requirement whatsoever that anybody has to verify anything, including expertise or credentials.
Actually, it is discouraged for us to do that ... cause it undermines the anonymity requirement of free discussion.
Your solution is to stop reading!
Miram · 31-35, F
@questionWeaver
If you want me to ignore you why do you keep tagging me under my own reply?
I am already aware of your background unless you were lying. The admins haven't requested revealing your credentials but you have previously provided a list of that in public, let me quote you
[quote]questionWeaver · 56-60, M
@Ultraviolence masters in business, focus in banking, oil and gas strategy, finance, real estate and negotiations ... school is recognized as 3rd in world
At undergraduate, I was awarded an award for engineering and Top Finance student
Have taught engineering, accounting, computer science, negotiation science and project management.
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https://similarworlds.com/18-Politics/3222618-Trump-supporters-What-is-your-level-of-education?page=2
And I do not like those outside my profession pretending to talk about the pandemic from a place of knowledge, while refusing provide references.
As an academic, you should have been aware as to why it's inappropriate to attribute false claims to the CDC.
If you want me to ignore you why do you keep tagging me under my own reply?
I am already aware of your background unless you were lying. The admins haven't requested revealing your credentials but you have previously provided a list of that in public, let me quote you
[quote]questionWeaver · 56-60, M
@Ultraviolence masters in business, focus in banking, oil and gas strategy, finance, real estate and negotiations ... school is recognized as 3rd in world
At undergraduate, I was awarded an award for engineering and Top Finance student
Have taught engineering, accounting, computer science, negotiation science and project management.
[/quote]
https://similarworlds.com/18-Politics/3222618-Trump-supporters-What-is-your-level-of-education?page=2
And I do not like those outside my profession pretending to talk about the pandemic from a place of knowledge, while refusing provide references.
As an academic, you should have been aware as to why it's inappropriate to attribute false claims to the CDC.