Homeopathy?

@SW-User Nah man, if it wass effective the Big Pharma would be producing bottles of water and sugar pellets to sell and rake in millions of more dollars off the lower production costs and overhead.

@MethDozer Big Pharma wants to keep people sick and dumbed down. They can't make money off of healthy people. I watched my father die of lung cancer when I was 6 years old so I've put many hours of research in this for years. I know how all this works. Cancer is an easily preventable and curable disease.

@SW-User That may be, that doesn't lend any validity to the insanity of homeopathy.

@MethDozer The insanity is people not willing to do their own research and try it. It's inexpensive with no side effects. I have used it for a lot of different things and it 100% worked.

@SW-User I have researched. I've even tried as I've known a few practitioners of it. It spits in the face of all science and is pure placebo. It's water by fact. If something is 20c say, it's nearly impossible one single molecule other than water is left.

@MethDozer See there's where you've been misinformed greatly. I can list 100s of things that prevent and cure cancer. I can list every single toxic ingredient that's in a flu shot and list every single short-term and long-term side effect or I can list one single plant that prevents it. None of that matters to people that refused to see reality. I'm not going to waste my time going back and forth with you. I watched an elderly lady cured from stage 4 breast cancer by taking 1 simple herb. I watched a man that was dying from brain cancer get up and walk within a few weeks by taking another natural supplement.

I will end this by saying in the age of information ignorance is a choice. Everyone PLEASE do your research from credible sources.

@SW-User Whether or not the pharmaceutical industry has some vendetta against homeopathy doesn’t speak to the legitimacy of homeopathy. But for decades and to this day, homeopathic medicines sit right besides actual medicine. There’s a market for that as well.

People would want to get rid of it because when people think something works when it really doesn’t, they are wasting their money, add some false sense of legitimacy to unfounded claims, and, in worse case scenarios, hurt or kill people.

Placebo effect for one thing. This happens to people everyday, not just with medicine. Making connections between things that have no real connection. That’s why you can’t take peoples word for it. But, whenever you criticize, scrutinize or just question the legitimacy of someone’s untested personal experience with it taken as a personal insult. A million “it works for me”s isn’t proof that it works. It can warrant investigations but it seem most investigation results are almost always no different than placebo effect. And again, there’s a market for it.

I know. Cholesterol has a negative connotation when in actuality there are different type, some good and some bad. Like the type that comes from dark green vegetables. No body is trying to get rid of all of someones cholesterol. But just because X is healthy for doesn’t mean a lot X is healthy for you. Same goes for sugar, carbs, insulin, etc. And yes, a lot of people do have opt out of lifestyle changes and depend upon medicine that they otherwise wouldn’t have to take, even if they know and someone tells them that lifestyle changes would be beneficial. People aren’t perfect and often take the path of least resistance and effort when it comes to that. And there are people who are genetically disposed to have higher levels of cholesterol than normal.

Flu shots as a scam: you’re just wrong there. Which is not me saying that you 100% can’t get the flu if you get a flu shot. (You can become exposed to the flu right within a day or week after the shot and not have built up an immunity, come in contact with an uncovered strain that wasn’t predicted to become popular, you might just get it but not as severely as you would’ve without the shot, you can still get a cold and get it confused with the flu) It’s not the cure all snake oil people want it to be or take it as. Which is something I don’t think is made clear to patients. But the benefits of getting for an average person outweight the risks on more than just an individual scale (which I don’t think most people care about )

And I’m not saying all the substance themselves used in homeopathy are useless and without effect. Many medicines main ingredient occur naturally in plants (aspirin, caffeine etc); it just that the molecules are isolated and/or in higher concentrations in OTC or prescribed medicine.

@SW-User homeopathy and herbal medicine are two entirely different things.

@SW-User Hun don't even respond anymore. Clearly they lack the ability to see their own fallacy. No matter what you say they will keep defending their own ignorance.

@elevendyflavin You don't get to call someone ignorant if you believe in homeopathy.

@MethDozer No you pretty much did that yourself. Do you actually think over 60 holistic doctors were murdered including some of their families because they sold fake products that didn't work?

@elevendyflavin What’s the fallacy?

@Cease It's what you can't see.

@elevendyflavin Holistic and homeopathic are two completely different things.

You gonna try and tell me magnets cure disease now too? How about making something alkaline with an acid?

@SW-User Sweetheart I commend you on your due diligence. I admire your research and willingness to set the truth out there but you have to understand people can only understand from their level of perception based on they're limited perspective. I can see that you're very intelligent and I admire that. I'm a microbiologist and I also teach human anatomy and dissection. Everything you've said thus far is 100% valid. Keep up the good fight but pick your battles.

@elevendyflavin Bullshit word salad. If you were ( or worth your salt in the field) you would know that you cannot fractionally dilute something that much and have anything left but water and that homeopathy has been scientifically busted over and over again.

@elevendyflavin You can’t even name the fallacy. What is “it’s what you can’t see” mean? Between the 2 of you who believe it here you used:

-Red Herring “Big Pharma” is trying to shut them down, 60 Doctors murdered; where even if that was true, it has nothing to do with whether homeopathy works.

-Argument from Authority. You’re a microbiologist and teach you human anatomy. That doesn’t give you authority to say that it work. With those fields, even if you did start a study, I don’t know you’d be qualified to analyze with only those fields.

-‘I know it work cause I’ve seen it with my own eyes’ and ‘I saw it cure cancer’ and ‘it works for me’. Anecdotes and agument from personal experience. Even if those people were apparently cured by homeopathy, it can’t be confirmed and are relatively useless to point to. And again people make unfounded connections all the time. That why we have to controlled tests.

It that “what I can’t see” is? That I can see someone use homeopathy and when it apparently helps them, I don’t believe it really works?