Is there any more privileged, deluded group than the anti-vaxers?
That's a rhetorical question meant to point out how deluded and privileged anti-vaxers are
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sogdianrock · 61-69, M
hi Celine
Scepticism is an honourable philosophical position. Drs and medical claims particularly are best treated sceptically.
Protection of their children is a moral and evolutionary imperative on parents.
It is logical for individual parents to not risk vaccination of their children but to rely on the vaccination of the other children to stop contagions.
It is a paradox that the logical choice at an individual level increases the danger.
However the factor of distrust of medical professionals is their fault for playing God so much in the past.
This is a rhetorical answer btw.
best wishes
:)
Scepticism is an honourable philosophical position. Drs and medical claims particularly are best treated sceptically.
Protection of their children is a moral and evolutionary imperative on parents.
It is logical for individual parents to not risk vaccination of their children but to rely on the vaccination of the other children to stop contagions.
It is a paradox that the logical choice at an individual level increases the danger.
However the factor of distrust of medical professionals is their fault for playing God so much in the past.
This is a rhetorical answer btw.
best wishes
:)
SW-User
@sogdianrock there is plenty of evidence for vaccinations to satisfy an intelligent sceptic. Moronic adherence to a 'study' that that has been soundly refuted and discredited is not a 'honarable philosophical position.'
As for relying on others to give your children herd protection while reducing a largely made-up 'risk' to your children that doesn't hold up. Unimunnised children are exposed to diseases that can kill. It only takes the number of selfish parents to reach a certain threshold and herd immunity begins to fail.
As for relying on others to give your children herd protection while reducing a largely made-up 'risk' to your children that doesn't hold up. Unimunnised children are exposed to diseases that can kill. It only takes the number of selfish parents to reach a certain threshold and herd immunity begins to fail.
sogdianrock · 61-69, M
hi Celine
Scepticism in and of the medical profession is a sensible starting point. Where this smoke there may well be fire and parents are concerned over multiple vaccinations. All I am saying if there is doubt the logical reaction is to not vaccinate until the herd immunity begins to fail. As you explain above. So that is not moronic.
Sure relying on others works fine for the selfish logical individual as long as not too many do it. At that point a new logic is created. Personally I would vaccinate but we are talking here of what others do and all I am saying is the parental care element of the equation is best recognised and perhaps the solution is individual vaccinations for those concerned. That is a matter of money of course.
I do find you posts interesting and of course you are right however often when such questions are obvious then it is necessary to explore further to find out why pesky people fail to do what is obvious. Telling people they are morons or balls out retards is funny but hardly going to win you an election.
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best wishes
:)
Scepticism in and of the medical profession is a sensible starting point. Where this smoke there may well be fire and parents are concerned over multiple vaccinations. All I am saying if there is doubt the logical reaction is to not vaccinate until the herd immunity begins to fail. As you explain above. So that is not moronic.
Sure relying on others works fine for the selfish logical individual as long as not too many do it. At that point a new logic is created. Personally I would vaccinate but we are talking here of what others do and all I am saying is the parental care element of the equation is best recognised and perhaps the solution is individual vaccinations for those concerned. That is a matter of money of course.
I do find you posts interesting and of course you are right however often when such questions are obvious then it is necessary to explore further to find out why pesky people fail to do what is obvious. Telling people they are morons or balls out retards is funny but hardly going to win you an election.
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best wishes
:)
SW-User
Ha true
Where there is smoke there may well be for fire' is a human reaction and should prompt anyone concerned to further research. The scientific evidence is favour of vaccinations is overwhelming. The initial 'study' stoking peoples fears (or smoke) has been proven to be fraudulent.
Herd immunity only offers a degree of protection- it is not absolute. It is considered to have failed only there is a widespread outbreak and that happens concurrently.
It does not make sense as a protective parent to allow your child to potentially die from a preventable disease to protect them from 'risks' -such as developing autism - that has been conclusively debunked both in demonstrating the fraud of the initial autism link study and consequent meta-analyses.
While there are some genuine risks to immunisation - such as serious adverse reaction - these are far rarer than the contraction rates for preventable diseases - all of which can lead to disability or death.
Where there is smoke there may well be for fire' is a human reaction and should prompt anyone concerned to further research. The scientific evidence is favour of vaccinations is overwhelming. The initial 'study' stoking peoples fears (or smoke) has been proven to be fraudulent.
Herd immunity only offers a degree of protection- it is not absolute. It is considered to have failed only there is a widespread outbreak and that happens concurrently.
It does not make sense as a protective parent to allow your child to potentially die from a preventable disease to protect them from 'risks' -such as developing autism - that has been conclusively debunked both in demonstrating the fraud of the initial autism link study and consequent meta-analyses.
While there are some genuine risks to immunisation - such as serious adverse reaction - these are far rarer than the contraction rates for preventable diseases - all of which can lead to disability or death.