Damn this Covid Sucks.

@doong people in highvax nations are not paying for their stupidity. Look at Isreal, Syceles, and other high vax states.

Low stupidity states like Swden and Tanzaia are doing great.

@doong how reliable is the information from that region?
if i recall there was a lot of under reporting and even denials coming out of indian media and government.

@MyaJhonston The best way to verify is to search for any forum in the internet with lot of Indian people in it. They can tell you better.

@MyaJhonston unreliable. If you are watching TV, everything is pretty much propaganda.

There is no denial in Indian media. They are completely owned by the cartel. They puppet Fauci word by word.

Indian, currently living in India here

@SW-User since you are there, please do share what is going on.

@MyaJhonston media censorship of cures. You might want to look up people like Archarya Manish, Amar Singh Azad, Biswaroop Roy Chaudhary. These are folks from natural and ancient Indian medicine. They have been curing people with natural remedies. And are getting censored af. In fact, the media has been busy smearing them because they asked patients to keep a fast, drink coconut water, and eat cucumber and tomatoes, etc

People are slowly waking up to the fact that they might have been fooled. A relatively mild illness was juiced up to be some kind of end of the world phenomenon. My dad is a doc. He worked throughout the pandemic. He admits that most people died or suffered more than necessary due to over-treatment and mistreatment.

@SW-User well when the virus has about a 2% mortality rate. most are going to recover.
so i could go to people, press my thumb to their forehead and say "kathulu has cured your covid." and i can pretty much guarantee they will be ok.
people doing home or traditional remedies with odds like that is not indicative of effectiveness.

@MyaJhonston what you are saying is some sort of black magic.

You need to understand that ancient Indian medice is far older than modern medicine. The amount of literature it has is far more than what modern science can provide.

Biswaroop Roy also started a camp. And he has been treating patient for free. He has been 100% successful. He has reported it to the Government of Indian and gotten recognized, but the media just wants to smear him. He has documented more than 60,000 patients.

Mortality rate is less than 1%. With drug based treatment, we should assume 600 deaths, which we don't see his data.

Only one or two newspapers dared to report him. I reached out to their editor to get published myself.

@SW-User once again. good batting average when the odds are about 98% the patient will be ok whether or not they are treated at all.
any reports of people doing work of that kind should be viewed with extreme skepticism.

@MyaJhonston well I view stuff that happens in hospitals with extreme skepticism.

I trust ancient knowledge more. It has been around for more than 5000 years. India is one of the new nations that still has suck old literature. In fact, I am planning to read the vedas (if you ever heard about them).

I was sick last month. I kept a one day fast, and eat very limited the next day. Wtihin 4 days, I was 100 restored without any medication and their side effects.

It happens when you are from a nation that does not have ancient sciences and medicine that is vastly superior to modern reductionistic sciences.

Try this Ted talk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzTvEK1sVi0

You can watch more from him.

@SW-User most colds last only a few days with or without treatment.

ancient cures in places like rome made use of lead, so does Ayurveda at times.
lead is very toxic to humans. taking it actively hurts you.

here is a little thought expirament:
you play the role of an investment agent, you call 100 people and tell 50 that the market will go one way, and then tell the other 50 the market will go the opposite way.
whether or not they invest right then and there is irrelevant cause which ever way the market goes you have convinced 50 people you can predict the market, even though you can't.

shift the same concept to health care. you run a private practice of traditional medicine and don't over advertise or seek scrutiny. treat 100 people.
however many of those people end up feeling better are now convinced the treatment works regardless of if it did anything at all.
combine that with the public scare of covid, a 98% chance people will get better in addition to the placebo effect.
a person can practice ineffective treatments and fool people including themselves into thinking it works.

@MyaJhonston don't know about rome. Cite me a source where lead is used to cure something. I am yet to see any cures that use it.

Don't need to play that experiment. I was a business major in college.

But you can't apply the same to health care. Tell 50 people the cure works. Tell 50 it doesn't. It works on 100 people and you have convinced every one. Dr biswaroop's 3-step flu diet has 100% success rate so far. There is not a single example of it not working.

Now the punch line: the flu diet was developed long before corona. So you can't add the 2% survival rate and its scare to the equation.

The flu diet came from treatment of Influenza like illness. It works on covid too because covid(if it exists) has the same symptoms as covid.

I suggest you look into it. It's not voodoo. Dm me if you want more resources and books.

Again, placebo effects doesn't work on 100% of test subjects. There are also videos of people on YouTube who are themselves promoting the 3-step flu diet because the media is censoring it.

@SW-User easy to make that mistake when you tell 50 it works and 50 it doesn't while there is a 98% chance they will be fine regardless. that is a very flawed take on it.

also covid is not like the flu.
the flu is commonly a stomach virus and many of the diet remedies act as an anti inflammatory of the bowel providing some relief.
it does not cure the flu nor would it have much effect on a respiratory virus. even if it did it would ease symptoms but not actually cure it.

there are also people on you tube claiming a guy they met at a mall healed their knees by waving his arms around.
witness testimony from people who want something to be real is not indication that it is real.

@doong Uttar Predesh needed harsh lockdowns and curfews to recover as much as it did; IDK why you'd want to use them as a model for success.

@MyaJhonston as I said 2% of 60000 is 1200. There was 100% chances 1200 would die, but they didn't.

Well, if I sit a covid patient next to a flu patient, you won't be able to tell any which is covid. In fact, corona viruses are the cause of common cold.

Flu is a stomach virus? I think you are overreaching here.

Fasting cures became it deprives pathogen of energy.you need to do some serious reading here.

Well, then there is no way to prove anything. There is no Sun because eye witness can be wrong.
You don't exist because every witness of you can be wrong.


I think you are under mindcontrol. Nothing I say will make any difference.

Let me try to help one last time.

Witness testimony can be both right and wrong. That's why we test it.


Finally, anyone who doubts it can see the report he submitted to the Indian gov and got recognized. I have a copy. If you want it, DM me. If you don't want to see it and continue to deny it without looking at evidence, I can't help you.

@SW-User no 2 corona type viruses are the same and while there is a chance for people to die it is possible to meet hundreds of thousands and not have a single one die. just cause there is a chance does not mean it will happen, or at least evenly.

viruses aren't alive and work by hijacking cells. starving yourself does not stop that.
don't bring philosophy into this. it's a good read but irrelevant and bordering on religious.

@MyaJhonston nothing about about philosophy here. If you take bio 1 in college, you will find out that you need energy to produce ATP, which a pathogen can't if you keep a fast.

You are very rude and judgmental

@SW-User critical, not judgmental.
direct and to the point, not rude.
being rude would be attacking you as a person, making insults. i am criticizing your method of logic, it's not the same thing.

a lower amount of atp has very little effect if any on virus replication. and halting atp completely is lethal. that's how cyanide poison works.

@MyaJhonston even my grandmother knows that viral fevers can be cured with simply fasting. It is knowledge as old ad bread.


I don't know about cyanide poisoning

@SW-User cyanide is incredibly toxic and prevents cells from using oxygen and halts atp production.
that is why it is used as a poison cause exposure is lethal if not treated in under 30 minutes.
that is off topic but a neat bit of how that stuff works.

@doong they used Ivermectin in Uttar Praddesh, that’s what really got it under control.

@doong [quote]Uttar pradesh, india, 200 million population, already have this under control with only 7% vaccination.

just type "uttar pradesh covid cases" in google, the graph shows you their result.

Gibraltar with 100% vaccination and only 33000 population still needed a 3rd jab.

Use your brain please[/quote]

The graph does not show how they got these results. What that state did, is sent armies of government employees in teams. They were knocking on doors, individually, and checking people (testing). Those infected with quarantined, and contact lists were started to locate, isolate and quarantine the people they came in contact with.

This is pretty much what China did to eliminate Covid: find the infected and cut them out of society. This is how Cuba controlled AIDS. No thanks to magic remedies, or ancient medicine.

It works, but it does not work for Western societies.

I think it’s because India has distributed Ivermectin as a prophylaxis. @doong

@Carissimi it was. Then, WHO tried to stop it. Then, the Indian Bar Association served a notice to WHO. Here's some legal work they have been doing to protect the public

https://indianbarassociation.in/legal/

And half of SW population thinks this is all vodoo or fictional.