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When people say all men should fight in the war...

It's like saying that if your country was struck by a horrendous tsunami, all men should rush in the direction of the thunami to try to save as many people as possible, despite having zero qualifications or knowledge about tsunamis, and those who run away from the tsunami are cowards who should forever suffer from survivor's guilt.

It is not a crime to literally survive, when disaster strikes.
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It is a tough call. To fight when you have a chance to win is one thing. To die for a lost cause is another. Ukraine cannot defeat Russia, it's just not possible. NATO would have to engage in the war directly. So you're asking people to go and fight just to hold off the inevitable, hoping that some kind of deal might come into place to keep some of the territory that you've been fighting over. It's really a big ask and certainly nobody who has never had to fight in a war should be forceful in their opinions about others who choose not to.
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Elessar · 31-35, M
@ostfuidctyvm Do they have a choice though? If Ukraine stops fighting you can bet Putin will come back for more in a few years, just the time to rebuild a credible invasion force. Exactly where we are right now after letting him take Crimea.

They aren't fighting to defeat Russia, they're fighting for pure self preservation.
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Nightwings · F
@Elessar If the war ends tonight, that is equally likely to happen in the future as well, but then at least people (like my husband) has a chance to escape in the meantime. 🤦🏻‍♀

What actually happens when the war in Ukraine stops, is likely that Russia invades Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia.
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Elessar · 31-35, M
@Nightwings Escape to where, if they'll continue to erode Europe piece by piece?

Yesterday was Crimea, today it's east Ukraine, tomorrow west Ukraine and the Baltics, then Moldova, give it another decade and they'll go all the way to Portugal lol
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