Narcissists are not bad BUT - ?

Accurate!

My mother is a narcissist...
I cut her out and I keep letting her back in hoping she's changed after "therapy" then I find out what she's been telling her therapist (from her mouth) and it just reaffirms the fact that she'll never change

Tristemuneca: It must be really hard because she's your mother and we are taught to respect our parents and all of that...but when they constantly manipulate and then lie behind your back about you and do other things then you just want to move far, far away. I don't think they'll ever change. I thought my sister had but in reality she's just gotten slicker with her mask of sanity and more manipulative at the same time. I gave her a second chance after not going around her for over 20 years (her ex's mother saw me and said she thought she was doing better with new medication)....she was worse and repays kindness and everything I did for her nearly every day for a year and a half with evil... People who have never been around someone like this have no right to judge you, I say that in case you have people trying to lay a guilt trip on you.

but what. i'd try to stay away from all that shit.

If those people know you well enough then it really won't matter whatever those narcisstic people say against you

I have a sister who is narcissistic and know a couple others, they can be downright dangerous when they can't control you, anything from gas lighting you so people even relatives won't be friendly or go around you to calling the police and accusing you of abusing them (for something as simple as telling them off for what they are doing)....best to stay away because overall they are dangerous one way or another.

They are a bad episode of Drama. I don't care for that crap.

@cherokeepatti you hit the nail on the head.
In addition to being gas lighted several times. I'm also the scapegoat and sometimes my brother understand and other times he doesn't
He also takes advantage of my generosity sometimes
He isn't as equally a narcissist as her but he is very selfish

That's sooooooo true.

but.... I have to think that because I am one :)

True friends will ignore such losers.

Narcissists need to reign it in just a tad is all

'tocks'

@dreaming- agreed except they never will becuase in their eyes YOU/WE/ everyone except them is the problem

BJB, well this is it, no win situation

OMG, this is so freaking true. So true.

Sight, tocks?

Doesn't sound GOOD, either.