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So I make valid points about how males do obviously face sexism and someone's only response is calling me stupid, great

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Magnolia · 31-35, F
Men can and do experience some prejudice, however not sexism because sexism isn't just about having hurt feelings. It's an entire system of oppression. I understand why someone called you stupid and I can also understand why that might have pissed you off or upset you, however it might be beneficial for you to listen to you the people who disagree with you. Especially if they are women and you're talking about something that greatly effects women.
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Magnolia · 31-35, F
@N7BlueDragonFox: Ok here's a little piece of advice, if you want to have a meaningful dialog with anybody it'd probably be best if you didn't abuse them when they try to join in.
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Magnolia · 31-35, F
@N7BlueDragonFox: That's a pretty dramatic misrepresentation of what actually happened here. I tried to calmly explain the difference between prejudice and sexism while telling you I understood why you were upset and you called me an ignorant fuck. There's only one abusive person here, surely you can see that.
Jackaloftheazuresand · 26-30, M
@Magnolia: Your idea of sexism only being a system of oppression is incorrect and a popular re-branding of a word to suit your purpose
Magnolia · 31-35, F
@Jackaloftheazuresand: The thing about language is that it constantly evolves to make room for nuanced understanding. The meaning of the word is slowly changing and 'prejudice' is taking the place of what used to be called 'sexism' because it's more generic. There's always push-back whenever anything grows and changes though so I see where you're coming from.
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Jackaloftheazuresand · 26-30, M
@Magnolia: Now I ask why is their a push to change the word? I have my belief that it is to hide behind an ulterior motive of turning the balance against males. Prejudice is such a broad word, so what then do we call specific sex prejudice if we can't call it sexist? See, when we change words we also have to make up new ones to replace the old. When people changed the word of feminism for example and turned it toward 3rd wave ideals we created the word of "egalitarianism" but the people pushing for sexism to be changed have no new word for it.
Magnolia · 31-35, F
@Jackaloftheazuresand: Systematic oppression is a different issue than general prejudice, that's why there are different words. We need to be clear on the issue when we talk about these things to avoid confusion. Unfortunately however people just get caught up on the wording and don't try to address the real issues a lot of the time. I don't know why you think there's a motive to turn the balance against men. I spend a lot of time in feminist spaces and read a lot of feminist literature and it's really not about that at all. It's not about men for the most part.
Jackaloftheazuresand · 26-30, M
@Magnolia: Tell me the new word for sexual prejudice then, please don't talk away from it
Magnolia · 31-35, F
@Jackaloftheazuresand: Prejudice still means what it has always meant. The word that has developed a more nuanced definition is sexism. For instance, say there was a woman going around hurting men because she hated men - that'd be prejudicial because it's about attacking men because of the hatred of men.
As a sidenote: men are pretty lucky though because things like that aren't exactly common!
Magnolia · 31-35, F
@Jackaloftheazuresand: That's a pretty interesting thing about our world as it currently stands. Even a movement primary for women is so twisted around that people still think it's all about men.
Jackaloftheazuresand · 26-30, M
@Magnolia: What I'm asking for is the new term to replace what sexism used to mean, not prejudice, "sexual prejudice"
Magnolia · 31-35, F
@Jackaloftheazuresand: I'm afraid I don't know what you mean. All I'm saying is that systematic oppression based on sex is called sexism and that being prejudiced against someone because of their sex is called prejudice. I don't know any other words for what you're asking.
Jackaloftheazuresand · 26-30, M
Exactly, the word has changed without creating a specific word for prejudice against men or women to replace the old definition of sexism. Prejudice is too broad because it could refer to many things, racial prejudice, class prejudice, intellectual prejudice, etc. We need specific terms for legal reasons and as you said so we don't get confused. If I say Jim is prejudice against Jill, well how is he prejudiced against her? Maybe it's because he's white and she's black and Jim doesn't like that or it could be because he's a man and she's a woman and he doesn't like that. But if I say Jim is sexist(using the old definition) we all know what I'm talking about from the start. I could just use my new terms that I have developed for debates, sexual prejudice, but that would have to be accepted by the whole of society so we speak the same.
Magnolia · 31-35, F
@Jackaloftheazuresand: And that's precisely the issue. For the sake of a little clarity, the definitions of sexism and racism have changed in some circles but that's not the end of it. You saw what happened when I tried to explain that: the OP called me an ignorant fuck for just trying to make things clearer. Change makes people aggressive.