What was the big let-down the Joker in Suicide Squad or Lex Luthor in Batman vs Superman

@Halcyon: fair enough; i liked SS, really didn't know Affleck, er, Batman would have that much of a role; i read about some "cameos", but definitely more of a presence than i anticipated

@silkandlace: I'm reserving my judgement for the next batman movie. imho the ensemble films are a mess and a shit show of preambles to other properties which I find to be amazingly insulting. They want to be where marvel is without putting in any of the time to wine and dine us. If they can make a single movie with a single protagonist and do a decent job I'll assume they might have a future beyond T.V. series. Right now they can't get past the one okay super man movie they did almost four years ago with an almost mindless leading man. This is of course all my opinion but I doubt I'm the only person that feels this way.

@Halcyon: no, i agree; this whole "combining of the, don't even know what word i want to use, "universes"?" thing, "to make it all more linear" garbage irritates me

@silkandlace: Combining multiverse to make an Omniverse I think is what you are saying.

@Halcyon: yes, thank you, at least, that's how my best friend explained it to me, HATE IT