Oh my god, I've been reading the comments here and gosh, people just DONT KNOW what is Islam and just write wrong statements because they only hear, never know. Alright, if you hate religions it's okay no one cares, do that and share that and give your reasons, seriously. But please don't go and assume some rubbish that's not even true! Arguments never win when the reasoning is wrong! Go and hate everything but do it fairly at least.
@QueenPeach: Oh my god. So please dear when you acknowledge that why do you go spreading ideas? Not everyone lived in Morrocco and surely not everyone makes a different between Muslim and Islam! But sharing such posts makes peopls think badly of this religion (if they're not already due to politics and ignorant people who soil this religion's image). So if you know that it's beautiful, why don't you mention that? I, to be honest, don't like how muslims are practicing Islam. But I can't go and insult the religion.
@AoNoSora: @QueenPeach: Actually it is the exact opposite, Islam is such a radical doctrine and it is only because Muslims don't really follow it they should not be hated. You wanna see someone who is literally following the rules of Islam? Look at ISIS, they follow Islam precisely, they represent it, now imagine if all Muslims did, OMG.
@UnhatchedEgg: Honey, you're sorely mistaken. ISIS don't follow Islam one bit. If people aren't Muslim they are free to do what they want. It's what Islam says. However ISIS are beasts to kill whoever don't go their way. Please don't mingle things. @EarthlingWise: Right, there is so much negativity that I forgot positivity. There are endless facts that make Islam beautiful. Scientifically prooved, no less.
@EarthlingWise: Quran was sent around 1400 years and unlike other religion's books it didn't change one bit, not even a letter. Check that if you don't believe. However, it's mentioned that the earth has sphere-like shape. It's mentioned that babies can form from a sperm and develop to lump of flesh..etc. Not convinced? I'll give you more but you asked it to be slow.
@AoNoSora: But it has changed, don't you know about the old versions that were found and contained different versions of the current Quran? Don't you know about the burning incident? Don't you know that it was not properly written and compiled but after the death of the prophet? Don't you know about the various incidents when the prophet said something was to be from the revelation and then took it back "omitted" saying oops sorry turned out it was from Satan? Dont you know about the revalation writer who would supposedly write the revalation as the prophet says it yet corrects the prophet on some areas and the prophet would actually agree with him (all what I am saying is extracted from hadiths) don't you know about the revalation writers who actually renounced their faith later on how the hell do you trust what they wrote? Don't you know that Quran said earth is flat and that there are a lot of scientific errors including the Embryos science that you are bragging about and that a lot of that science you are bragging about was ALREADY there at the time.. I'd say more and quote you specific quranic references to show you that Isis specifically follows Islam but I am in a hurry now, I'd advise you to look for their punishments in the Quran and way of ruling, you will find it there.
@AoNoSora: couldn't agree more! @UnhatchedEgg: In all respect, there was never old versions of Quran because it never changed. I don't know how you KNOW about a nonexistent fact. Quran was written when the prophet was alive. Go and learn History. And the things you said were all wrong. Prophet never said such or such a thing was from Satan. And share the Hadith because there are people who claim Prophet said that but didn't (people appeared centuries after him). You don't understand arabic, or do you? If you do you must know that it is mentioned earth is egg-shaped and those misleading arguments you must have read are written by people who don't know what SYNONYMS and interpretation are. If you don't know Arabic then don't make up things that are absolutely wrong. One more thing, ISIS do not apply Islam exactly, they are misinterpreting every verse and do things that are not supposed to be done. And the fact about Embryology is right. I don't know why you cannot acknowledge that even tho it's clear. Why is it wrong in the first place? Display all the wrongness you saw and we shall see wrong from right tho I'm sure there isn't. But it doesn't hurt to make it clear for you, I guess.
There is no such thing as a nonexistent fact, or else, it would not be a fact :D
I think it is you who doesn’t really know much about the history of Islam. Quran was mostly known by heart at the time of the prophet simply because writing was not that common at the time. I already mentioned in my earlier comment that there were scribes during the prophet time, but Quran was not fully written, because after his death and during what we refer to as “Ridda wars/Wars of apostasy” many Muslims of those who memorized the Quran were killed and the Khalifa Abu Baker was worried Quran was going to be lost because of that, so he started calling for writing the Quran down and compiling it. It is well known, it is elementary school information! O.o
The Satanic verses I was referring to that were omitted were mentioned in Ibn Jarir al-Tabari (a very prominent scholar) Tafseer book, below is a screenshot of his book, I suppose you read Arabic since you were arguing over the language!
Regarding the egg-shaped thing, I am a native Arabic speaker, not sure why you are assuming that I don’t know Arabic, I guess it is nice when you are arguing someone who doesn’t understand the Arabic language because you can lie all you want about it, sadly I used to do that! The word mentioned in the verse that refers to earth is “Dahaha - دحاها” means “spread out” , has nothing to do with eggs, it is scholars who went on saying that it means this and that in order to cover it up, however, there are actually Islamic scholars who would argue that earth is flat because they understand that it is mentioned as such in the Quran so they deny scientific facts!
Regarding embryology Surat Al-Mu'minun 23:14 says “Then We made the sperm-drop into a clinging clot, and We made the clot into a lump [of flesh], and We made [from] the lump, bones, and We covered the bones with flesh; then We developed him into another creation. So blessed is Allah , the best of creators” - I will need to argue the actual Arabic words to show you that it has nothing to do with science, but to avoid this, very simply, just saying that bones come first and are then are covered with flesh is something that no science has proved yet!!
ISS does not follow Islam? So I guess they do not derive their punishments from Quran right? Surat Al-Ma'idah 5:33 “Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment” and this is only one example, there is a lot more, but you should do your own homework!
Finally, you are saying that there are no old versions of Quran, have you not heard of the old manuscripts of the Quran? If you haven’t yet, look for the Sana'a manuscript and read about the discrepancies that were found and how access to it was restricted then because of that. Also, use your common sense, at the time, dotting was not invented yet, words did not have any dots, if you do understand Arabic and I suppose you do, you will know that one word could be interpreted as various meanings that would make sense if it does not have dots (and I can actually give you various examples on verses that would have many interpretation because of the missing dots), how the heck are you so confident that the old Arabic writing was interpreted correctly? Discrepancies were actually found, different scribes interpreted the writing differently as they were copying old scripts using modern writing.
You wasted a lot of my time, really you should learn more before accusing others of lying without any grounds.
