I have a question, when is someone believe in something superhuman a religion?

You think we control this earth?

We cut trees, we will animals, we claim land, we trash the ocean, we even control each other. How do we not?

@triangless: well you see sir we only do a little to the planet we are like bacteria to the planet. whatever we do we never control earth

@triangless: this planet will be here long after the minor nuisance of mankind has disappeared.

and if you think its the entire planet its only the small shell we stand on on the outside and thats like 10% of the planet or maybe less

Yes, that's why I said earthly disasters will stop us. I said this because of 'if 1 man believes something like an invisible man controlling the world he is crazy'. God does not control the world, neither does he control us. It is us who are in control of our actions.

@triangless: then why the hell would he even exist that my point, people are always like god will help or somethign alike. then why didn't he stop sense less murder, children who get killed ,killed the holocaust. why didn't he stop such things? he created us and we should worship him while he does not do anything? that even more stupid then i could imagine.

if you believe in an almighty sky daddy who doesn't do shit then i'm sorry but then you are nothing but a crazy person and a fool.

Is it gods fault that people sin? That they murder and lost their ways? Why didn't the people fight for those going to die in the holocaust? It was their own free will, god has no control over our choices. We come to earth to be enlightened, to purify our soul and learn, but if we still struggle to do so we will be reborn. As I said, god is not a man, he is who watches above of, even if we suffer plenty in this life, he will take us in his brilliant light and show us we are loved. He is with us at all times, we only have to believe. Faith is strong.

1. yes it is since you logic is he made the universe and us humans. he would make a fail safe or somethign a like or that we coudn't sin.
2. same as point 1 he made us its his fault.
3. 1 if i point a gun at your head and tell you take that other gun and shoot the other person you do what the person is saying since he has t he gun aimed at you so if you even try to kill him he will kill you.
4. faith is bollocks. that a like a friend not telling you weed is illigal if you don't know and after your uysing it doesn't try to stop you and once you almost died went in to rehabilitation and after is saying hey i loved you al lthe time and i was there for you i did nothing but i was here after your suffering.

its complete bollocks.
it hypocritical? i mean hey i don't give a shit in your first life you could be tortured for no reason gassed and killed by tsunamis or tornadoes you might die in a week of suffering. and then come there and he is their i was always wit hyou and i saw everythign but now its alright? wait waht? bitch where were you when i died by some other thing or kill me not let me suffer.

1 and 2 answer: Yes it is my believe and that of many other. It's not his fault some peoples intentions are evil.
3. I don't understand what you're trying to say with this?
4. Again, I actually have a hard time reading this grammar wise. So I'm not sure what you mean?

I think you are just experiencing a lot of negativity and that's why you want to make a point and reason. I understand it's hard to comprehend, was the same for me at a time where I felt there was no god and justice, but it's about your own perspective.

I think it's easiest to understand when you are in the right community, of welcoming people who understand and empathize with you, with people you can look up to and learn from, that's where faith lays the strongest, that's where the meaning of life is found.

Even if you suffer now, it is not without reason and I know you might not believe me now, but maybe later when you're older or passing away, you will understand it all, that yes, the world is full of trouble, but we have a chance to make it better, because we are the people of this earth. Even just one genuine act of kindness can change a lot.

what ? he made us? its like a child making little characters of Lego pieces and the one is evil and the one good the one the villain the other the hero. he chooses. you say he makes everything. so he is what's wrong with the universe

i'm a saying a soldier in an army might fight and you could say he is evil but actually saying that hitler is behind him and is saying if you don't kill i will kill you. and since we have a living instict we woudn't want to die and it would be useless he would try (hitler ) until he finds someone who kills.

what i mean is that its not the guy who shoots its the guy who controls if its the guy who shoots yes ok but if its an army 1 guy isn't evil its the commander.

i'm a guy who is autistic, became fat because i'm a stress eater because my dad alwsays yells and i 'm afraid of him since i was small.

i was bullied my entire life my spirit is broekn i would kil lanyone in my path right about now if my soul wasn't broken. and your saying i need to listen to some hypocritical god who made the world and also evil then didn't stop us from eating the apple and doesn't give us back heaven because 2 people somewhere in the past fucked up? we need to have the consequences. i meean if thats what your saying then it means my struggles my mental illness is his fault you cannot try make me faithful.


i'm sorry but you are saying if nothing ever happens that bad and it all falls in your lap then i would believe because then i wouldn't be angry at him.

you see my problem with what your saying?

Look if you choose not to believe it's on you, I know it's hard for you to understand. God is simply a higher power than we can't comprehend, but he is not of evil and wishes no evil on his creations.

And I agree, a man is not evil if he is commanded to shoot by someone who controls him, if he is scared for his life, he is not a true sinner if he knows and repents what he did. If he has a consciousness.

My partner had PTSD, got shot three times when he was just protecting the border and took a long time to recover, he shot people out of defense too. I too suffered from bullying all my school life and injustice, but I never gave up hope. I had many failed suicide attempts, often in a coma for days, but I knew that if I couldn't make my own life better, maybe I should help those around me, to feel some sort of self worth. And I did find peace from it, I found many wonderful people.

I lost my father to a heart attack and my brother to suicide, I know this pain is real, but if you choose to consume the darkness within you it will eat you up. We can make a difference in our own life, my partner was also very poor (poor as in, his parents couldn't even buy him shoes, he comes from a 3rd world country) and bullied as he was young, but he found ways to be successful.

We all go through sufferings, but we can overcome them. For me and him it was faith, god is our hope. What you choose to believe is on you. I don't try to convince you to follow my view, since I also found my believe on my own.

Having faith means dedication to life and loving each other, even when it seems impossible at times. Hope that helps somehow.

i can comprehend it you just see his hypocrisy as a gift. my dad is the same he called me scum because i have a mental illness he said i was trash but he said i'll live with you becasue i have too because your my son. and everyone was like ooh so sweet. thats you, and believers you say ooh so sweet of god while he is horrible as fuck.

yeah that might be good that you found wonderful people i'm not saying thats it.
but the ptsd the shooting. god lets this happen?

that might not be the trouble you could have 70 years of a horrible life and then become successful. but those 70 years this is what gods alows and i woudn't have a problem with it. but you are saying he made everything including satan or lucifer and the tree and the apple.

well i at least thank you for not forcing anyone. i love that you want to help people but the only way i survive is getting power from the darkness at the end of my life when i will die and thats it. nothign more. but at least forcing no one is wonderfull.

well i can give hope too but not by saying some magical being is out there but because i'm around them and i will help them and any of their friends will.