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swirlie · F
There is actually two parts to your question that need answering. Just to give some perspective, I joined the 'original' EP back in 2005 during EP's original inception when I was 13 years old, which happened to be the minimum age to join, though it mattered not because there was no adult content in EP anyway.
EP then ran for exactly 5 years from 2005 to 2010 where the original webmaster who was a Physician, pumped a bunch of money into his website and upgraded it with all the latest bells and whistles for the time and really turned a rudimentary website into a much more professional-looking and socially functional thing of beauty.
In that same year 2010, EP was then sold and the new webmaster took over who was actually a total novice at being a webmaster, meaning he didn't have a clue what he was doing, nor did he give a rat's butt that he didn't know.
EP then started going downhill immediately thereafter from 2010 onward until the trolls committed an Insurrection on the henhouse and by the end of 2015, EP was nothing more than a smoking lawn dart sticking out of the ground, resembling nothing even close to what the "original EP" was all about from 2005 to 2010. EP lasted for exactly 10 years, almost 11 before it imploded.
In early 2016, SW started up on the heels of EP by a few months and what SW started out as was pretty much what we still have today, whatever this is.
Yes, there have been improvements along the way.. like the addition of games for example for those who still like to play games at this juncture in life, but the SW web format itself remains very restricted in what it can technically do as a website platform because of SW's inherent, rudimentary design concept. Case in point, you only get what you pay for.
Even if the owner of SW decided to replicate EP tomorrow because he had our best interests in mind, he could NOT do it, even if he scrapped what we have here today and started all over again with a clean slate while using the same old web platform this website is currently constructed on.
An upgraded version of SW, but using the old web platform would not upgrade anything at all here because SW's web platform is incompatible with the ideas and protocols that were already in place during the last 5 years of EP's tenure.
The first thing this should tell you is how old SW's current web platform really is if EP was light years ahead of it back in 2010, right?
The only way to turn SW into what EP was in the year 2010, would be to scrap what we have here ...and I mean take it right to the dump in the back of a truck, then invest some serious money into a new web platform and launch a new website that is based on the "original EP" concept from 2005 to 2010, not what EP ended up as in it's last 5 years of it's operation.
Like my grandmother always tells me, "you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear", meaning that what starts out as a sow's ear will always look like a sow's ear, no matter how much lipstick you put on that old pig to make her dance right.
EP then ran for exactly 5 years from 2005 to 2010 where the original webmaster who was a Physician, pumped a bunch of money into his website and upgraded it with all the latest bells and whistles for the time and really turned a rudimentary website into a much more professional-looking and socially functional thing of beauty.
In that same year 2010, EP was then sold and the new webmaster took over who was actually a total novice at being a webmaster, meaning he didn't have a clue what he was doing, nor did he give a rat's butt that he didn't know.
EP then started going downhill immediately thereafter from 2010 onward until the trolls committed an Insurrection on the henhouse and by the end of 2015, EP was nothing more than a smoking lawn dart sticking out of the ground, resembling nothing even close to what the "original EP" was all about from 2005 to 2010. EP lasted for exactly 10 years, almost 11 before it imploded.
In early 2016, SW started up on the heels of EP by a few months and what SW started out as was pretty much what we still have today, whatever this is.
Yes, there have been improvements along the way.. like the addition of games for example for those who still like to play games at this juncture in life, but the SW web format itself remains very restricted in what it can technically do as a website platform because of SW's inherent, rudimentary design concept. Case in point, you only get what you pay for.
Even if the owner of SW decided to replicate EP tomorrow because he had our best interests in mind, he could NOT do it, even if he scrapped what we have here today and started all over again with a clean slate while using the same old web platform this website is currently constructed on.
An upgraded version of SW, but using the old web platform would not upgrade anything at all here because SW's web platform is incompatible with the ideas and protocols that were already in place during the last 5 years of EP's tenure.
The first thing this should tell you is how old SW's current web platform really is if EP was light years ahead of it back in 2010, right?
The only way to turn SW into what EP was in the year 2010, would be to scrap what we have here ...and I mean take it right to the dump in the back of a truck, then invest some serious money into a new web platform and launch a new website that is based on the "original EP" concept from 2005 to 2010, not what EP ended up as in it's last 5 years of it's operation.
Like my grandmother always tells me, "you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear", meaning that what starts out as a sow's ear will always look like a sow's ear, no matter how much lipstick you put on that old pig to make her dance right.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Excellent analysis @swirlie
swirlie · F
@jackjjackson
Thanks jack, I think it kinda outlines what we're dealing with here.
Thanks jack, I think it kinda outlines what we're dealing with here.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
And here we are lol. I read your snow tire analysis. Here in the PA area when I was in my teens through mid twenties switching to “snow tires” was a huge thing. I think the advent of “all season radials” ended that except for rear wheel drive performance cars. That and over the years it seems as though there is less and less snow. Used to be guys drove around with plows on their pickups looking to make a few bucks. No more. If they do any of do commercial only. Made me get a snow blower. Some years I’ve only used it once and sometimes I look at it as insurance against a ton of snow lol. Must be different where you are. @swirlie
swirlie · F
@jackjjackson
Yes, here I am over here now! I'm up in Toronto and we get mainly lake-effect snow in winter and late springtime. Very happy to hear you read my snow tire analysis post! I do tech research in the marine industry and I shared some snow tire research I did for myself when faced with buying snow tires this year! That's how it came to be!
The tricky thing is with snow tires/winter tires/all-season radials/ summer tires, each classification is based on ambient air temperature, not anticipated snow or dry road conditions in your area.
In Canada for example, it is illegal to run 'snow tires' beyond April 30th because the rubber is so soft ...and gets even more soft when temps rise above 32*F, that the tires become dangerous to use which is actually placarded on the tire purchase agreement.
If you're ever involved in a car crash in summer and you still had snow tires on your car, you will be deemed 50% at fault, even if none of it was factually your fault. It will be argued that the incorrect tires on the car contributed to one's inability to avoid the collision.
The same thing goes with all-season radials, where they are not legal to use in the Province of Quebec between November and April because Quebec gets more freezing rain and snow than Ontario does. 'Winter tires' are not legal either because they're only certified as 'winter tires' down to a temp about 5 degrees below the freezing point before they revert to 'summer tire' status. Only 'snow tires' are legal when operating in outside air temps of below the freezing point to as low as -40*F.
Below that temperature, even a 'snow tire' reverts to 'summer tire' status as far as traction performance is concerned, but few people know that.
Yes, here I am over here now! I'm up in Toronto and we get mainly lake-effect snow in winter and late springtime. Very happy to hear you read my snow tire analysis post! I do tech research in the marine industry and I shared some snow tire research I did for myself when faced with buying snow tires this year! That's how it came to be!
The tricky thing is with snow tires/winter tires/all-season radials/ summer tires, each classification is based on ambient air temperature, not anticipated snow or dry road conditions in your area.
In Canada for example, it is illegal to run 'snow tires' beyond April 30th because the rubber is so soft ...and gets even more soft when temps rise above 32*F, that the tires become dangerous to use which is actually placarded on the tire purchase agreement.
If you're ever involved in a car crash in summer and you still had snow tires on your car, you will be deemed 50% at fault, even if none of it was factually your fault. It will be argued that the incorrect tires on the car contributed to one's inability to avoid the collision.
The same thing goes with all-season radials, where they are not legal to use in the Province of Quebec between November and April because Quebec gets more freezing rain and snow than Ontario does. 'Winter tires' are not legal either because they're only certified as 'winter tires' down to a temp about 5 degrees below the freezing point before they revert to 'summer tire' status. Only 'snow tires' are legal when operating in outside air temps of below the freezing point to as low as -40*F.
Below that temperature, even a 'snow tire' reverts to 'summer tire' status as far as traction performance is concerned, but few people know that.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Complicated but easy to comply with if one wants to it seems. Here it’s simply a matter of adding air when the temps go down. A little research when buying a truck tire to make sure it really is a truck tire and factoring in the amount of noise one is up for. Even still I prefer a real four wheel drive body on frame truck where one can select locking either or both axles. . With the tires I described in general I like to use the Michelin Defender LTX M/S I’ve never gotten stuck even in three feet of untreated snow. @swirlie
swirlie · F
@jackjjackson
Yes, I agree with what you're saying here jack, a person shouldn't have to be an engineer to buy a set of snow tires!
My father has a four wheel drive truck that he uses on the farm all winter, which has the old version of 2 or 4 wheel drive selection, high and low range. On a pickup truck, I think that is very important for fuel savings because full-time AWD can cost you several miles per gallon needlessly when all those parts are turning at the same time.
The Michelin Defender LTX M/S is equivalent to the Bridgestone Blizzak DM V2, the latter of which is marketed as an fairly low mileage output snow/ice tire, but the Michelin is marketed as a deep snow, high mileage output snow tire for areas where freezing rain is not commonplace.
In southern Ontario, down around Lake Erie and Lake Ontario, freezing rain and freezing fog define half our winters up here, but deep snow is uncommon!
Yes, I agree with what you're saying here jack, a person shouldn't have to be an engineer to buy a set of snow tires!
My father has a four wheel drive truck that he uses on the farm all winter, which has the old version of 2 or 4 wheel drive selection, high and low range. On a pickup truck, I think that is very important for fuel savings because full-time AWD can cost you several miles per gallon needlessly when all those parts are turning at the same time.
The Michelin Defender LTX M/S is equivalent to the Bridgestone Blizzak DM V2, the latter of which is marketed as an fairly low mileage output snow/ice tire, but the Michelin is marketed as a deep snow, high mileage output snow tire for areas where freezing rain is not commonplace.
In southern Ontario, down around Lake Erie and Lake Ontario, freezing rain and freezing fog define half our winters up here, but deep snow is uncommon!
