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Women's handball

The women's European Championship in handball is played at the moment in Sweden.
Am I the only one here who is watching it?
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MartinII · 70-79, M
ArtieKat · M
You stole my line - very English sarcasm, Martin!
MartinII · 70-79, M
@ArtieKat: Said with a friendly smile, though.
ArtieKat · M
@MartinII: Of course!
karinaal · 70-79, F
@ArtieKat: I know that you are a gentleman but gentle or not; you are still a man and though it is said that an Englishman sees conjugal sex as a duty and necessary evil do I not doubt that for instance when you for long boring hours stand on a lane on your foggy, isolated island and much like sheep look at a wicket are your thoughts occupied with exactly the same naughty things that all the other men in this world think of. That is how you English (successfully?) combine sport (?) and sex.
But you do not need to be embarrassed because of your crude thoughts and inclinations; the latest news is that in USA (you know, that place across the sea that used to be your colony) they will make it a condition for becoming president that you not only have crude thoughts but express them loudly and boastfully. I am not sure how long it over there takes to have such a new amendment to the constitution passed so that it also legally comes into power but it does not really matter because it already is a political fact.
And when it comes to sport the Americans are just as crazy as you British and have still not discovered how wonderful and entertaining a sport handball is. It is popular for both men and women in most European countries and its popularity is spreading so that today it also is played in South America, Africa – especially North Africa, Japan, Korea and China and only English speaking countries have not yet seen the light.
The English even claim that in their country it is all about football and last summer we all saw on TV from France how well these Englishmen play football.
MartinII · 70-79, M
@karinaal: The true English game is cricket. At the moment we are being beaten by another lot of former colonials, in India.
karinaal · 70-79, F
How very uncivilised of those former colonials to beat you.

So that is what you call cricket, that standing in a field, gawking at a wicket and having the head full of wicked thoughts?
MartinII · 70-79, M
@karinaal: No, the Indians are extremely civilised! I spent many happy hours standing in field paying cricket. I don't remember any wicked thoughts, but I expect there were some.
ArtieKat · M
@MartinII: I hated cricket at school - went on to Athletics as soon as I could, and then on to sailing which was a lovely way to spend a summer's afterrnoon.
MartinII · 70-79, M
@ArtieKat: Good for you. Cricket has always been my game. One of those things you love or loathe, like Wagner, my other passion!
ArtieKat · M
@MartinII: :-)
karinaal · 70-79, F
@MartinII: Please read my comment again and you will notice that I did not say that the Indians or anybody else are uncivilised, just that it is unccivilised of them to beat you.
I know that I sometimes do stupid things and I guess that you too at times do somethinmg stupid but this does not necessarily mean that any of us is stupid.
Is it only your wicked thoughts that you do not remember or do you in general begin to experience problems remembering things?
MartinII · 70-79, M
@karinaal: Yes, I read it correctly the first time. No suggestion that anyone, least of all you dear Karin, is stupid!

My memory, touching wood and thanking God, is very good, especially for things that happened a long time ago. I think I was too engrossed in the cricket to have wicked thoughts!
karinaal · 70-79, F
@ArtieKat: @MartinII: Maybe this news from the handball front in Sweden, where 16 national teams at the moment play for the European Championship, will make you two elderly British gentlemen more interested I women's handball:
Mr. Trefilov is the Russian coach and a legend as coach in women's handball because he has been active for many years, has coached many great teams as for instance Lada and the Russian national team, has got very good results with his teams (for instance Olympic gold with the Russian national team in 2016) but most because he is a big man, sort of an image of the Russian bear, seems to be temperamental and at times very angry when his players do not perform as he expects and a man with voice that can be heard even in a sports arena with several thousand noisy people.
Everybody interested in women's handball knows who he is but very few outside Russia can say that they know him because he does not speak English. This also means that he cannot as most other coaches give interviews to the international media.
About 20 years ago both Russia and Denmark were building up new national teams and for a number of reasons it was arranged that these two teams had a number of training sessions and training matches together. Our Danish coach later told about the first time he met Mr. Trefilov, “He looked angrily at me and then he spoke to me in Russian, loudly and energetically, for about five minutes before he suddenly laughed loudly, gave me a big hug and walked away.”
Now Mr. Trefilov has given an interview to Norwegian TV and I am sure that it will interest you and perhaps give you certain thoughts and associations:
Mr Trefilov said that in his opinion was the coach always to blame when his team lost a match and he continued, “But in the worst case I can give the girls an innocent smack on the butt.”
The Russian player Anna Sen acted as translator and it was very difficult for her to keep a straight face when she translated Mr. Trefilov's “confession”.
The interview proceeded:
Question: “What kind of man are you, Mr. Trefilov. Are you the angry man we see on the field or the funny man that we experience outside the field?”
Answer: “I am an angry man on the field. It is not easy to be a happy man when working with so many women.”
(Mr. Trefilow and Anna Sen both laughed)
Mr. Trefilov continued, “If I cannot have a little fun I will end up in a psychiatric hospital. It is only on the field that I am crazy.”

Maybe you should try to watch a match like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h03Mhso9aw

and try to guess which butt gets most innocent smacks by Mr. Trefilov.
MartinII · 70-79, M
@karinaal: Well, much more interesting than drug-taking. No excuse for it of course, but possibly not the worst thing a sports coach has ever done. I guess a little cp was not unknown from school games teachers 50 years ago.

By the way, I must protest gently at your description "elderly". Old certainly, but not yet elderly!🙂
karinaal · 70-79, F
@MartinII: Please accept my sincere apology and be assured that I forever will remember that you are an old gentleman – perhaps even an old school gentleman?
I am so sorry for the mistake but I beg you to understand that especially in languages that are not my mother tongue is it difficult for me to be fully updated on what words no longer are comme il faut.
It already is difficult enough in my own language when words, that a lady and a nice girl at best did not know and certainly never used when I grew up, now suddenly are commonly used even on children's TV.
And when the Latin word for black now suddenly is a four-letter word. In the early medieval times it repressed the Danish word “blaamand” (= blue man) and at least in the seventies, when I attended business school, it was still commonly used also in textbooks and not at all derogatory but our Danish word for black was considered improper to use about humans. Now the good old Latin word is no longer political correct but I have no idea what word to use instead.
I always do my best to be polite at least on the surface and especially when I deliberately aim at offending somebody; it is so much more effectual and also satisfying when the sarcasm make the offence a product of their own interpretation of my words.
MartinII · 70-79, M
@karinaal: Thank you for your very kind reply. There was no need to apologise - I'm afraid my pedantry was, as usual, getting the better of me early this morning. And yes, I must accept the description "old school"!

And now I have watched the youtube film of the handball game between Russia and Korea. Handball is a very interesting game. But the bottoms! Another SW friend reminded me recently that the female bottom might have been designed with spanking in mind. The Russian handball team, and their white shorts, seem to have been hand-picked to illustrate that idea!
karinaal · 70-79, F
I told you that women's handball is interesting to watch.
One of the things that makes December hectic for me and other Danes is that every year we in the beginning of December have two weeks with either the European Championship or the World Championship for women.
And then again every year in January it is the men's turn and for two weeks we again are glued to the TV screen.
You can find lots of women's handball on Youtube and I strongly recommend that you look up the Olympich finals from Los Angeles, Sydney and Athen when the Danish team won the gold - in Los Angeles and Athen in extremely exciting matches against Korea and in Sidney against Hungary.
Our Crown Prince was in Sidney to watch our handball women and other Danish athletes and then he in a bar met a lady who is now our Crown Princess.
That women's bottoms fascinate and attract men is nothing new and you have to admit that our bottoms are expressive, which is not strange when you think of it as simple biology. Almost all female mammals use the bottom to attarct the males and to signalise that they are in season and ready to be mounted. Why should we humans be different in this?