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If the right to bear arms is dependant on the need for a "well regulated militia is regulation of guns expressly necessary?"

Since all 50 states have illegalized private militias and the national guard stands in for state militias. Is the whole thing a moot point? Likewise in absence of a state militia a well regulated right to bear arms is especially justified. Can we do the right thing already?

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NoGamesTolerated · F

I do wonder what hun owners will do when they are demanded to hand them over. It won’t be pretty!

exchrist · 31-35

@NoGamesTolerated unlikely to happen any time soon they'd pause sales of guns until all current firearms are accounted for more likely

NoGamesTolerated · F

@exchrist maybe

SW-User

Wish you were on the US Supreme Court! Your legal reasoning is a lot more convincing than theirs.

Budwick · 70-79, M

You have made the 2nd amendment into a word salad.

2nd amendment -
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Stop trying to infringe on the peoples right to bear arms.

Subsumedpat · 36-40, M

It is because it says the right of the people shall not be infringed not the right of the militia shall not be infringed.

Fukfacewillie · 56-60, M

@Subsumedpat Militias are illegal which is what the sentence means, though. It’s moot. The people are the militia.

Subsumedpat · 36-40, M

@Fukfacewillie Yes and what peoe think of as a militia is not the same as back then.

SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M

What is "the right thing" in your mind?

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exchrist · 31-35

@SumKindaMunster that's the challenge waiting periods similar to canada mandatory training as in ny as an example. And maybe money back with compliance

SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M

@exchrist What's your opinion of the gun control bill that just passed?

https://news.yahoo.com/biden-signs-gun-control-bill-170449942.html

https://theweek.com/gun-laws/1014339/senate-bipartisan-gun-deal

the proposed legislation would incentivize states to pass "red flag" laws, allowing guns to be confiscated from "individuals whom a court has determined to be a significant danger to themselves or others," though these confiscations would be limited by "state and federal due process and constitutional protections."

It would also direct billions of dollars toward mental health programs, increase funding for school security, expand background checks for gun buyers under the age of 21 to include juvenile justice records, and close the so-called "boyfriend loophole."

exchrist · 31-35

@SumKindaMunster it's a step in the right direction. And clearly no change in gun policy hasn't worked so. . .

Fukfacewillie · 56-60, M

Yes, it is. We are dealing with radicalism.

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